# no more high speed pursuits

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 16, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064 "2007-10-16T04:26:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/1 "2007-10-16T04:26:06Z")

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gm is doing in 2009

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**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/2 "2007-10-16T04:48:16Z")

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I don’t like it. Just another way the government can mess with your personal property. If we start allowing our vehicles to be disabled remotely it also opens the door for criminals to somehow find a way to disable vehicles to rob the driver or for an invading enemy to disable our transportation.

How much longer before vehicles have gps in them to tell what road they are on and electronically limit them to the speedlimit of that road.

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**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/3 "2007-10-16T05:00:08Z")

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Just another way for Big Brother to work into our daily lives.

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**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/4 "2007-10-16T05:58:22Z")

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goes to show you, just buy used cars from now on.

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**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/5 "2007-10-16T06:32:30Z")

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I’m not a big fan of it either, but I bet someone will be able to disable that shit real easy. All you’d really have to do is get rid of your on-star crap that transmits and receives signals from outside.

When OBD2 first came out, it created some headaches, but there are tons of reflashes and tuning aids out now, and as always they come down in price over time.

So as much as I don’t like it, I’m confident that the aftermarket will find ways around it.

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**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/6 "2007-10-16T07:03:12Z")

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I WILL DEFEAT THIS if it’s on my car and I’ll go standalone if I have to. Fuck them. The invasive government can kiss my ass.

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**Author:** ![SP71Supra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sp71supra/32/5955_2.png) [@SP71Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SP71Supra)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/7 "2007-10-16T07:05:02Z")

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Whats this country coming to?

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**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/8 "2007-10-16T07:05:11Z")

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Taking out the stock radio disables OnStar as of right now. My OnStar quit working in my Cavalier when I put my Pioneer deck in.

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**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/9 "2007-10-16T07:11:29Z")

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geez, its not bad at all. The said they have to have consent from the vehicle owner. It not the government stepping in, its the private citizen whom makes the call to on-star and initiates the shut down so you get you car back in one piece.

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/10 "2007-10-16T07:17:43Z")

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> [@Mix one cocky kid and...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mix-one-cocky-kid-and/33014/5):
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> geez, its not bad at all. The said they have to have consent from the vehicle owner. It not the government stepping in, its the private citizen whom makes the call to on-star and initiates the shut down so you get you car back in one piece.

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**Author:** ![imported\_Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/edb3f5/32.png) [@imported\_Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jon)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/11 "2007-10-16T07:22:32Z")

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I didn’t realize GM/OnStar was the government.  
You guys need to calm down a bit, if you don’t call OnStar and say someone stole my car etc., no ones going to stop it. I don’t see the problem, I’d love to know that if someone stole my brand new car I can call and have it found and retrieved in a day.

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**Author:** ![jackie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jackie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jackie)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/12 "2007-10-16T07:43:02Z")

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> [@Mix one cocky kid and...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mix-one-cocky-kid-and/33014/6):
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> I didn’t realize GM/OnStar was the government.  
> You guys need to calm down a bit, if you don’t call OnStar and say someone stole my car etc., no ones going to stop it. I don’t see the problem, I’d love to know that if someone stole my brand new car I can call and have it found and retrieved in a day.

x2, I think it’s a pretty good idea.

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**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/13 "2007-10-16T09:06:29Z")

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> [@Mix one cocky kid and...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mix-one-cocky-kid-and/33014/6):
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> I didn’t realize GM/OnStar was the government.  
> You guys need to calm down a bit, if you don’t call OnStar and say someone stole my car etc., no ones going to stop it. I don’t see the problem, I’d love to know that if someone stole my brand new car I can call and have it found and retrieved in a day.

The people against it do not like the fact that a criminal could get the same controller in their car that the cops will supposedly have. If that controller is in the wrong hands, now someone can shut down your wife’s car when she is going through the hill district, I don’t have to tell you how that story ends.

Do you see the other side now?

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**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/14 "2007-10-16T09:44:09Z")

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> [@beat90tsi"](#):
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> The people against it do not like the fact that a criminal could get the same controller in their car that the cops will supposedly have. If that controller is in the wrong hands, now someone can shut down your wife’s car when she is going through the hill district, I don’t have to tell you how that story ends.
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> Do you see the other side now?

thats what i was thinking, and i know the cops could have onstar shut you down if they wanted without your consent.

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**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/15 "2007-10-16T10:45:11Z")

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1984

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**Author:** ![foz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/foz/32/6028_2.png) [@foz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/foz)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/16 "2007-10-16T11:29:00Z")

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y’all remind me of the petty thugs I’ve seen as customers at stereo shops who would give the installers a tip to unplug/disable the onstar and sos (Mercedes emergency version of onstar)… 'cuz “someone” was listening in

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**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/17 "2007-10-16T11:36:27Z")

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> [@So, I'm going through the Ultima UK site....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-going-through-the-ultima-uk-site/32944/32):
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> y’all remind me of the petty thugs I’ve seen as customers at stereo shops who would give the installers a tip to unplug/disable the onstar and sos (Mercedes emergency version of onstar)… 'cuz “someone” was listening in

The difference is, this isn’t about “listening”, it’s about shutting down your engine. That becomes extremely easy with the drive by wire that almost all cars are moving to.

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**Author:** ![Laura00WS6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/laura00ws6/32/6017_2.png) [@Laura00WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Laura00WS6)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/18 "2007-10-16T12:02:11Z")

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> [@Mix one cocky kid and...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mix-one-cocky-kid-and/33014/5):
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> geez, its not bad at all. The said they have to have consent from the vehicle owner. It not the government stepping in, its the private citizen whom makes the call to on-star and initiates the shut down so you get you car back in one piece.

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**Author:** ![Misfit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misfit/32/3358_2.png) [@Misfit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Misfit)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/19 "2007-10-16T12:09:35Z")

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that hamburger is and can be food

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**Author:** ![imported\_Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/edb3f5/32.png) [@imported\_Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jon)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-high-speed-pursuits/193064/20 "2007-10-16T12:36:09Z")

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> [@beat90tsi"](#):
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> The people against it do not like the fact that a criminal could get the same controller in their car that the cops will supposedly have. If that controller is in the wrong hands, now someone can shut down your wife’s car when she is going through the hill district, I don’t have to tell you how that story ends.
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> Do you see the other side now?

The cops aren’t the ones with the control, OnStar is and the cops will be talking to them in accordance with a request from the owner of the vehicle.  
I suppose, theoretically if criminals figure out how to hack into the OnStar system then yes they could shut your car down, whenever, and wherever they want.  
Maybe do a mass shut-down of all vehicles.  
That’s ofcourse if OnStar doesn’t have some sort of preventative measures for this, I see the other side but to me it just doesn’t seem plausible.

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