# No more outsourcing?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [June 1, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386 "2010-06-01T00:33:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/1 "2010-06-01T00:33:43Z")

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[http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100530/pl\_nm/us\_usa\_outsourcing](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100530/pl_nm/us_usa_outsourcing)

Would be so awesome. I am so sick of being called “Rion.”

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/2 "2010-06-01T02:52:59Z")

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that bill won’t get far.

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**Author:** ![zee\_oh\_sex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zee_oh_sex/32/6451_2.png) [@zee\_oh\_sex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zee_oh_sex)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/3 "2010-06-01T04:15:40Z")

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:+1

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/4 "2010-06-01T05:20:59Z")

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GL with that.

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**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/5 "2010-06-01T06:54:58Z")

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“Schumer’s bill would also impose a $0.25 excise tax on any customer service call placed inside the United States which is transferred to an agent in a foreign location. The fee would be assessed on the company that transferred the call.”

Right, because the company would never dream of passing that cost off to the consumer.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/6 "2010-06-01T07:52:31Z")

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All for it myself. Get some american kids to answer the damn phone. any drop out idiot can read a screen and tell me to reboot the pc 4 times, then not fix the issue and bump me to level 2 assitance.

I am not a rude guy in real life, but I have no problem telling someone to stfu and transfer me to someone I can understand. Lets see it happen.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/7 "2010-06-01T08:19:38Z")

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> [@Anyone wanna race?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-wanna-race/32282/4):
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> All for it myself. Get some american kids to answer the damn phone. any drop out idiot can read a screen and tell me to reboot the pc 4 times, then not fix the issue and bump me to level 2 assitance.
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> I am not a rude guy in real life, but I have no problem telling someone to stfu and transfer me to someone I can understand. Lets see it happen.

lol yes. I hate talking on the phone with someone I can’t understand. I paid off / cancelled a credit card … well attempted to. I couldnt understand her, and I kept saying, “exscuse me? I didnt get that”… she copped such an attitude with me… I ignored it the first time but after the second time I lost it. I then tried calling back 3x and ended up with her on the phone each time and just hung up. I waited till the next day to finish lol.

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**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/8 "2010-06-02T09:28:12Z")

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That senator is an idiot. Who cares if the calls in India or whereever…lower taxes so they can afford to employ here.

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**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/9 "2010-06-02T10:16:51Z")

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> [@J&J Shafts yet Another Customer (7/12/07)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-j-shafts-yet-another-customer-7-12-07/32262/234):
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> That senator is a fucking idiot. Who cares if the calls in India or whereever…lower taxes so they can afford to employ here.

Good thing he represents you. . .

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/10 "2010-06-02T12:25:56Z")

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> [@J&J Shafts yet Another Customer (7/12/07)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-j-shafts-yet-another-customer-7-12-07/32262/234):
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> That senator is a fucking idiot. Who cares if the calls in India or whereever…lower taxes so they can afford to employ here.

:Idiots dipshit…

Anyways… I would love to see this bill get passed, but it never will :sigh

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**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/11 "2010-06-02T12:43:04Z")

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Ya your probably right, rather than just lowering taxes and making it cost effective to make the call center jobs in the United States, keep taxes the same and add a penalty for outsourcing. Good idea.

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**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/12 "2010-06-02T13:01:56Z")

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so you want to lower taxes? what government programs would you like to no longer have in order for that to happen? you can’t just lower taxes for no reason. and the penalty portion of it is there so it becomes more expensive to have the calls outside of the country then stay inside the country.

oh but the bill is never gonna pass.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/13 "2010-06-02T13:23:05Z")

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> [@WTB: sdram atleast 256mb](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-sdram-atleast-256mb/32283/6):
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> what government programs would you like to no longer have in order for that to happen?

Must not…take… bait… 14 page…rant…

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**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/14 "2010-06-02T13:44:20Z")

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> [@It's my birthday](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-my-birthday/32312/11):
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> Must not…take… bait… 14 page…rant…

Agreed, that list is way too long. Lets just do a hypothetical example as to why this is a bad idea.

You buy an HP computer; HP warehouses their customer service reps in India currently, but due to the penalties they decide to move the operation over here. Now the cost for this service has grown exponentially, so HP decides to do one of three things: They either a) hire less service reps, resulting in very long wait times when you call, b) raise the prices on their products which you are buying in order to cover the differential, or c) they do both.

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**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-outsourcing/252386/15 "2010-06-02T13:51:53Z")

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> [@WTB: sdram atleast 256mb](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-sdram-atleast-256mb/32283/6):
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> so you want to lower taxes? what government programs would you like to no longer have in order for that to happen? you can’t just lower taxes for no reason. and the penalty portion of it is there so it becomes more expensive to have the calls outside of the country then stay inside the country.
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> oh but the bill is never gonna pass.

100 plus guards for the governor  
Overpaid state employees  
Unemployment/welfare for able bodied people for more than 2 months  
Tax system based on consumption  
Employment benefits of those in government (specifically lifelong ones)

Not to mention you sort of can just lower taxes in some cases. If you lower taxes and fees enough where its cost effective for companies to employ internally you’ll gain revenue through their income tax. Also, you’ll increase employment if they stop outsourcing and start hiring internally which would lessen the need for welfare programs.

It just seems fishy, how a state can wait so long to do nothing. There are non-necessities that have become necessities and instead of thinking of ways to invite business in they think of more ways to keep it out.
