# non-abs vlsd (manual) bolt to abs car (manual)?? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [September 9, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283 "2007-09-09T08:53:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/1 "2007-09-09T08:53:04Z")
To clarify… I have a vlsd, pumpkin, output shafts etc, the whole unit. its from a non-abs, 5spd s13. can i drop my open diff on my 90 5-spd coupe with abs and bolt it up? ---
**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/2 "2007-09-09T08:56:25Z")
maybe if you get the back half of a non-ABS driveshaft. ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/3 "2007-09-09T11:04:33Z")
hrm, can anyone confirm? thx ---
**Author:** ![roast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/roast/32/5498_2.png) [@roast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/roast)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/4 "2007-09-09T14:29:48Z")
John, is ABS disabled? IIRC the ABD pumpkin has a sensor where the propeller shaft bolts up. I have an ABS pumpkin with driveshaft, if you want to swap. ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/5 "2007-09-09T16:57:23Z")
honestly, i dont really know i dont believe the abs works, so it may be disabled but its in the car. i’ll have to figure that out i guess. :x ---
**Author:** ![Elroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Elroy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Elroy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/6 "2007-09-11T19:21:17Z")
abs and non-abs driveshafts are different lengths is my understanding, the abs driveshaft i think is shorter as the input part of the abs diff is longer for the abs sensor when compared to a non-abs diff ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/7 "2007-09-11T19:28:43Z")
maybe i should clarify i understand that they are different lengths, but i also understand that when it comes to driveshafts lengths are not super presice and there is a bit of leniency as far as the spline engagement goes if the diff that I have causes a bit less engagement at the tranny i dont really care if its only a fraction of an inch… i just have no clue how much of a difference there is or if the change in mounting position might fuck up the carrier bearing mounting point or what… i dont want to get 90% in to the job only to realize i’ve been wasting my time, thats all 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@tosh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tosh)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/8 "2007-09-11T19:30:01Z")
what elroy said is right. get a non abs driveshaft and your gold. i may even have one in the garage. have to check tho. peace ---
**Author:** ![tosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@tosh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tosh)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/9 "2007-09-11T19:36:18Z")
> [@Anyone want?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want/13916/11): > > maybe i should clarify > > i understand that they are different lengths, but i also understand that when it comes to driveshafts lengths are not super presice and there is a bit of leniency as far as the spline engagement goes > > if the diff that I have causes a bit less engagement at the tranny i dont really care if its only a fraction of an inch… i just have no clue how much of a difference there is or if the change in mounting position might fuck up the carrier bearing mounting point or what… > > i dont want to get 90% in to the job only to realize i’ve been wasting my time, thats all 🙂 it will work as i have read of people that have done it. but i have also read that people also complained of excess wear in the bearing because of slight binding. get the right drive shaft, they are not hard to come by. peace ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/10 "2007-09-11T19:38:17Z")
awesome thanks tosh. if you could take a look in your garage that would be awesome. is there any way to tell the difference between the two or is it a matter of measuring? thanks again… -J (see you sunday!) ---
**Author:** ![tosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@tosh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tosh)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/non-abs-vlsd-manual-bolt-to-abs-car-manual/109283/11 "2007-09-11T19:44:10Z")
don’t know the exact measurment but i do know the abs driveshaft is about an inch shorter. i will check tomorrow if i still got it. i honestly don’t know, so much shit from 240s and old rollas. peace