# Novice Bike: Ninja 250R - input/comments

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [February 14, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/novice-bike-ninja-250r-input-comments/242115 "2009-02-14T12:24:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/novice-bike-ninja-250r-input-comments/242115/148 "2009-02-16T20:03:22Z")

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> [@Slopoke \> Slow84TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/slopoke-slow84ta/14235/7):
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> Theres guy that will jump on a Busa and never wreck.
> 
> But theres also guys that will jump on a scooter and eat shit.
> 
> All on the rider

Nope, not the rider.

Risk management and the good ol’ probability.

Starting on a smaller bike makes you more likely to survive.

[http://shift518.gom-host.com/showthread.php?t=11](http://shift518.gom-host.com/showthread.php?t=11)

> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/41/6):
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> **Now for the sane crowd. I’m not going to tell you what bike you should start on, and what bike you should avoid. I’m not even going to tell you that 600’s are off limits as a first bike. You can start on them, but they are not good starter bikes. Can you get away with it? Yes. Will you? Maybe. See after years of seeing this argument and listening to both sides, I came to one conclusion. It’s all about the odds. Now let me elaborate on that. A brand new rider can start out on an R1 (horrible starter bike) and get away with it. Does that mean you can to? Probably not because there is probably 9 other guys that crashed or injured themselves on the same bike doing the same thing. So your odds are not good for that bike. Then there is always the guy that starts out on what many consider the ultimate beginner bike – the infamous Ninja 250, and crashes. Does that mean that it’s just as dangerous as an R1? No because for every guy that injured himself on a 250 there is a dozen guys flicking them around on the streets, and having no problems. So your odds are good. It is as simple as that. You can start out on any bike. Whether your odds are going to be good or not, that’s up to you.**

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