# NY 198 now 30mph. Cover the 33? Skyway a park? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 1, 2015, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409 "2015-06-01T08:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/61 "2015-06-01T16:13:36Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > We just complain about dandelions and dogs barking. It’s simply the worst… ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/62 "2015-06-01T16:17:11Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > @BOBBYGRV Take a look at what’s happening in NYC, I believe @fairgentleman_Z linked to one such story. To be honest I only found that link because @dozr liked a facebook post that @RedrRocket made. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/63 "2015-06-01T18:23:31Z")
Speed limits in Buffalo are far too low anyways. I come up there to visit and feel like slow motion. Is it due to the winter weather they just have super low speed limits? I can’t think of one highway that is 55mph down here. 55 is a side road. The slowest highway I can think of is 70mph and most of them are 75 or 80. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/64 "2015-06-01T18:32:43Z")
I don’t see how the winter weather could force something like this. If that were the case then it would make much more sense just to have severe weather-imposed speed limits or seasonal speed limits for winter driving. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/65 "2015-06-02T00:19:59Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > We just complain about dandelions and dogs barking. I Hate Dandelions … But the kids love them so they stay Barriers Yes 30mph No thanks ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/66 "2015-06-02T03:09:49Z")
I flew through that bitch last night! ---
**Author:** ![donkeyballs69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@donkeyballs69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/donkeyballs69)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/67 "2015-06-02T03:53:41Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > I flew through that bitch last night! Was it around 7:45? Someone in a black Suv was hauling ass past the radar signs. I’m like this mother fucker is crazy. Think it was a SRT. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/68 "2015-06-02T05:45:01Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Maybe because I have the ability to look at facts and make determinations using logic? > > Feel free to explain how this guy falling a sleep is a good reason to lower a speed limit. > [@JayS](#): > > If he’s bored going 30mph he’ll be less likely to fall asleep? Oh wait. Friggin know it alls! Why on earth would you try the least invasive step first and gradually increase restrictions as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Mankthetank19](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mankthetank19/32/5295_2.png) [@Mankthetank19](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mankthetank19)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/69 "2015-06-02T05:50:28Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > It’s probably because I’m the only person willing to post about it. Look at how many light posts are knocked down. So your solution is to put barriers up? Now the cars can crash and then stay on the roadway to get hit from behind? You make it sound like throwing up barriers is going to solve the solution here… Most of the light posts knocked down are from the snow plows during the winter ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/70 "2015-06-02T06:52:30Z")
> [@rugsr](#): > > I > Hate > Dandelions > … > But the kids love them so they stay > > Barriers Yes > 30mph No thanks If you live in the woods you don’t get your neighbors dandelions blowing into your lawn. rural\>suburban 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/71 "2015-06-02T07:42:15Z")
Part of the problem is people don’t understand how traffic flow works. They see a 3.3 mile long 198 and say “It’s 4 minutes end to end at 50mph and only 6.6 minutes at 30mph. Is 2.6 minutes really that big a deal”. Simple math like that works great for a single car but the dynamics of moving thousands of cars going 60mph off the 190 and 33 onto a 30mph connector is a lot more complex. Think about how badly heavy traffic backs up when just a single car slows down on the highway. > **[Traffic jams follow explosive pattern, says researcher (w/Video)](https://phys.org/news/2009-06-traffic-explosive-pattern-wvideo.html)** > > (PhysOrg.com) -- Picture this next time you're stuck in traffic: Thousands of wildebeests loping across the Serengeti Plain when suddenly a few spooked animals turn the orderly migration into a sea of locked horns, U-turns, head-on collisions and... ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/72 "2015-06-02T07:50:13Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Part of the problem is people don’t understand how traffic flow works. They see a 3.3 mile long 198 and say “It’s 4 minutes end to end at 50mph and only 6.6 minutes at 30mph. Is 2.6 minutes really that big a deal”. Simple math like that works great for a single car but the dynamics of moving thousands of cars going 60mph off the 190 and 33 onto a 30mph connector is a lot more complex. Think about how badly heavy traffic backs up when just a single car slows down on the highway. > > [Traffic jams follow explosive pattern, says researcher (w/Video)](http://phys.org/news/2009-06-traffic-explosive-pattern-wvideo.html) Are you some kind of expert on traffic bro? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/73 "2015-06-02T08:06:20Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Are you some kind of expert on traffic bro? More physics hobbyist but the two overlap. 🙂 Or are you just applying to be my 2nd passive aggressive ex-girlfriend? (in addition to Spam16v) ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/74 "2015-06-02T08:11:50Z")
This is a terrible incident. Barriers should have been used years ago. Lowering the speed limit is dumb. During rain storms, 50mph could be pretty sketchy, but most people do not have major problems. it may seem like it would only be a 2 minute add to a commute, but the masses are dumb. You will undoubtably have more cars on the 198 because it’s a bottleneck during rush minute. More cars WILL lead to more problems. How many people are going to smash into the barrier now just because it was all over the news? I bet there will be at least four 30mph wrecks by the end of July and prove just how the new safety barriers saved the dandelions ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/75 "2015-06-02T08:21:38Z")
ive been driving on the 198 for years. never hit a kid yet . ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/76 "2015-06-02T09:08:15Z")
> [@King](#): > > ive been driving on the 198 for years. never hit a kid yet . So we don’t talk about that one time anymore? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/77 "2015-06-02T09:53:43Z")
And the driver was on probation for kiddie porn… [http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/driver-in-fatal-delaware-park-crash-was-on-probation-for-possessing-child-pornography-20150602](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/driver-in-fatal-delaware-park-crash-was-on-probation-for-possessing-child-pornography-20150602) Not sure how that’s relevant but it’s the headline on the Buffalo News. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/78 "2015-06-02T09:56:52Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > And the driver was on probation for kiddie porn… > > [http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/driver-in-fatal-delaware-park-crash-was-on-probation-for-possessing-child-pornography-20150602](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/driver-in-fatal-delaware-park-crash-was-on-probation-for-possessing-child-pornography-20150602) > > Not sure how that’s relevant but it’s the headline on the Buffalo News. It’s relevant to click baiting ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/79 "2015-06-02T10:54:59Z")
drove this twice today, people still rip. wonder how many BPD officers shoot radar lol. the other day i was doing almost double the speed limit by a buffalo cop and he was like ehhhhhhhhhhhhh and kept driving. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/80 "2015-06-02T11:31:49Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > It’s relevant to click baiting Seriously. Fucking BS. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409.md?page=5)