# NY 198 now 30mph. Cover the 33? Skyway a park? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 1, 2015, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409 "2015-06-01T08:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/161 "2015-06-10T05:51:54Z")
At least do single file and not take up the whole lane. I doubt they are even doing 20 mph ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/162 "2015-06-10T07:08:26Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Seriously get off the Scajaquada and go do some dirt you pussies!!! Fixed šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/163 "2015-06-10T08:11:45Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > At least do single file and not take up the whole lane. I doubt they are even doing 20 mph 20!!! I doubt they are even doing 12 ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/164 "2015-06-10T09:03:52Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > I hope someone plows them all down and they change the speed back to 50 for everyone safety If you ride like bowling pins, someoneā€™s bound to get a strike eventually. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/165 "2015-06-18T06:28:34Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Assuming a single car going from 50mph to 30mph it only changes it by 2.6 minutes. And thatā€™s why people that donā€™t understand physics are going ā€œwhatā€™s the big deal?ā€ > > The problem is thatā€™s not how traffic flow works AT ALL. When you take the three lane 33 with a 55mph limit and the 2 lane 190 with a 55mph limit and use them to feed traffic onto the 2 lane 198 expressway with a 30mph limit you get a giant clusterfuck. > > Itā€™s like having two garden hoses filling a small bucket. As soon as you stop taking the water out of the bucket as fast as itā€™s coming in the bucket overflows. That overflow is going to end up on Parkside and Main and then all these people on Parkside that were bitching for lower speed limits on the 198 are going to change their tune in a hurry. I disagree with this analogy. The limiting factor is not the new 30 mph speed limit, the limiting factor is and has been the exit ramp speed. For example the two 190 garden hoses that fill the east bound 198 bucket has a flow rate of 25 mph (not 55 mph), the other east bound bucketā€™s inlets are still from traffic lights, yield signs, stop signs and 30 mph roads, the bucketā€™s outlet exits have not changed. All that has been reduced is the amount of turbulence that can exist in the bucket. It still sucks for those of us that can defy the laws of physics and can ignore primary flow restrictor, but it has been my experience that the general population can not. Now going down to one lane is a different story. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/166 "2015-07-03T07:40:30Z")
BUMP for backtracking: > The city now plans on recommending to the New York State Department of Transportation that an increase would make sense not only short term but for years to come. [http://www.wkbw.com/news/city-officials-considering-speed-increase-on-198](http://www.wkbw.com/news/city-officials-considering-speed-increase-on-198) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/167 "2015-07-03T08:23:36Z")
Well im shocked :lol: ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/168 "2015-07-28T07:07:36Z")
**500 attempted child killers in the city:** > **[500 caught for speeding on Scajaquada](http://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/500-caught-for-speeding-on-scajaquada/1108438275)** > > It wasn't hard for Buffalo Police to find those going well over the 30 MPH speed limit. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/169 "2015-07-28T07:10:02Z")
Weird they lowered the speed limit right around the same time the city allowed people to plea down tickets and keep the money :lol: :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/170 "2015-07-28T07:13:03Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Weird they lowered the speed limit right around the same time the city allowed people to plea down tickets and keep the money :lol: :lol: Much revenue. Many tickets. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/171 "2015-07-28T07:19:26Z")
I thought that BPD didnā€™t have radar? :troll: Also agree with the one statement in the article. Keep it 30 where it passes the park. Parkside to Delaware. After that should go back to 50. That said there are so many other routes that even before the speed limit drop I never used the 198. I am on it 1-2 times a month just when I am going to 190N and have always thought it was a cumbersome drive. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/172 "2015-07-28T07:23:21Z")
![http://www.nyspeed.com/pictures/politicalmeme2.jpg](http://www.nyspeed.com/pictures/politicalmeme2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/173 "2015-07-28T09:06:42Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > I thought that BPD didnā€™t have radar? šŸ§Œ > > Also agree with the one statement in the article. Keep it 30 where it passes the park. Parkside to Delaware. After that should go back to 50. > That said there are so many other routes that even before the speed limit drop I never used the 198. I am on it 1-2 times a month just when I am going to 190N and have always thought it was a cumbersome drive. They actually equipped cops who were trained to do this. If you look they are outside the cars with portable guns and not car mounted radar as part of the default cop training most patrol cars use. I just hope they wrote enough tickets to make up for the money they spent on barriers, lights, signs, cop pace cars, and now all the new equipment to enforce this instead of ya know, building a fucking guard rail. ---
**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/174 "2015-07-28T09:15:54Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Also agree with the one statement in the article. Keep it 30 where it passes the park. Parkside to Delaware. After that should go back to 50. > That said there are so many other routes that even before the speed limit drop I never used the 198. I am on it 1-2 times a month just when I am going to 190N and have always thought it was a cumbersome drive. I agree about the speed limit zone from Parkside to Deleware or even Elmwood. If they bumped it up to 40 outside of that it wouldnā€™t be so torturous to drive to and from work every day. Itā€™s hard to stay awake and pay attention driving 30 on an expressway. I use the 198 all the time but most of my travel takes me to the 190. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/175 "2015-07-28T10:34:14Z")
I still do 50-60 on it, most people I see driving next me are doing 50+. The only place they shoot radar from is by the Delaware exit that I know of. I avoid that road as much as possible. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/176 "2015-07-28T10:49:09Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > I still do 50-60 on it, most people I see driving next me are doing 50+. The only place they shoot radar from is by the Delaware exit that I know of. I avoid that road as much as possible. My favorite is all the people doing 50+ through the neighborhoods now. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/177 "2015-07-28T10:59:09Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > My favorite is all the people doing 50+ through the neighborhoods now. What do you base this on? Do you mean to say the high traffic streets like Parkside, Amherst, and Main? ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/178 "2015-07-28T11:33:55Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > What do you base this on? Do you mean to say the high traffic streets like Parkside, Amherst, and Main? People flying down Nottingham. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/179 "2015-07-28T11:42:49Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > People flying down Nottingham. Not new. That is why Middlesex is the smart buy there. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409/180 "2015-07-28T12:22:34Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Not new. That is why Middlesex is the smart buy there. šŸ™‚ Oh its def not but there is a lot more people who purposely divert earlier off the 198 to shoot down those streets now. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-198-now-30mph-cover-the-33-skyway-a-park/272409.md?page=10)