# NY about to pass strictest gun laws in nation

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**Created:** [January 15, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195 "2013-01-15T03:31:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/361 "2013-01-17T19:49:59Z")

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Holy fuck this is bulllshit.

This was reported by Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin on his facebook page tonight.

"Here it is. This is the video where I was asked to keep the Democrat proposals for the NY SAFE Act away from the public. This list was given to me by a colleague and it is not confidential.

This bill was an attack on the 2nd amendment and the Democrats clearly wanted to dismantle the work of the Founding Fathers. None of these amendments were included in the final bill thanks to us fighting back. I will not stand silent while these unpatriotic proposals are pathetically thrown at us a 11 o’clock at night:

1. Confiscation of “assault weapons”
2. Confiscation o ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder’s information to be replaced to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons"

[http://youtu.be/ryUbJfg4tAo](http://youtu.be/ryUbJfg4tAo)

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**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/362 "2013-01-17T20:23:20Z")

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wow. mother fuckers

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**Author:** ![Muckman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@Muckman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Muckman)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/363 "2013-01-17T20:40:56Z")

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Absolutely stunned. Thats a liberal wish list.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/364 "2013-01-17T21:03:19Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> i went through this entire thread and only saw one mention of LEO stuff by someone and it didnt pertain to my question so i apologize if i missed this being addressed.
> 
> i keep reading on different forums that there is no more LEO exemption for off duty carry, but, im curious if the firearm is issued for duty by the FEDERAL GOVT am i technically in the wrong for my 12 round magazines?
> 
> will it still stand with my 50 state legal on/off duty carry permit?

Hell no, if you carry your HK off duty, it better be loaded for duty carry… our FEDERAL jurisdiction is over any state policy… now, if you were to carry a personal weapon, that COULD be different, BUT, no cop would EVER say anything to you for it.

according to federal law, if you are a LEO, you can carry ANY personal weapon,concealed. i wanna say it’s HR218 or something?

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/365 "2013-01-17T21:36:49Z")

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thanks Tyler.

I really am not a gun enthusiast so I just wasn’t sure on where we stood with this whole shit storm

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/366 "2013-01-17T21:59:59Z")

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> [@FASTMOFO](#):
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> I have family in Ohio, they went to the gun store yesterday. said price tags were getting ripped off everything. pistols, rifles, even all the ammo, and all stuff got marked up. He said a box of ammo for what I cant remember, went up $100 alone.

Going to the CMP in Port Clinton, actually writing this from my hotel room. Hopefully picking up a couple M1 Garands and the good 30/06 and .30 carbine they just got in. Purchasing from the Federal Government on a military base…Oh the irony! :tspry:

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/367 "2013-01-17T22:42:39Z")

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I wasn’t before the job…but being around so many gun nuts (I’m talking guys who have well over 100 guns) i got hooked…the cool thing is, EVERY single one of my guns is selling USED for more than what I paid for it… hell, my AK is selling for TWICE what I paid for it.

> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> thanks Tyler.
> 
> I really am not a gun enthusiast so I just wasn’t sure on where we stood with this whole shit storm

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/368 "2013-01-17T22:54:30Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> thanks Tyler.
> 
> I really am not a gun enthusiast so I just wasn’t sure on where we stood with this whole shit storm

As the law reads currently LEO on duty are in violation of the law to use over 10 round mags and be loading more than 7 rounds.

It will be fixed shortly but, it’s just an example of how rushed the law was put through.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/369 "2013-01-17T23:37:20Z")

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this would affect state/local/county… and I’d be damned if any of those cops are going to drop 5 rounds out of their mags to be in “compliance” lol.

> [@Freek](#):
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> As the law reads currently LEO on duty are in violation of the law to use over 10 round mags and be loading more than 7 rounds.
> 
> It will be fixed shortly but, it’s just an example of how rushed the law was put through.

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/370 "2013-01-18T04:10:20Z")

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> [@snowracer101](#):
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> this would affect state/local/county… and I’d be damned if any of those cops are going to drop 5 rounds out of their mags to be in “compliance” lol.

I agree that they won’t but police are just as required to follow the law as I am.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/371 "2013-01-18T05:07:41Z")

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> [@jabbu](#):
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> Holy fuck this is bulllshit.
> 
> This was reported by Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin on his facebook page tonight.
> 
> "Here it is. This is the video where I was asked to keep the Democrat proposals for the NY SAFE Act away from the public. This list was given to me by a colleague and it is not confidential.
> 
> This bill was an attack on the 2nd amendment and the Democrats clearly wanted to dismantle the work of the Founding Fathers. None of these amendments were included in the final bill thanks to us fighting back. I will not stand silent while these unpatriotic proposals are pathetically thrown at us a 11 o’clock at night:
> 
> 1. Confiscation of “assault weapons”
> 2. Confiscation o ten round clips
> 3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
> 4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder’s information to be replaced to the public
> 5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”
> 6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
> 7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
> 8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
> 9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
> 10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
> 11. State issued pistol permits
> 12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
> 13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
> 14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
> 15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons"
> 
> [http://youtu.be/ryUbJfg4tAo](http://youtu.be/ryUbJfg4tAo)

I hope people are thinking about that list when they’re pissed their local Republican “settled” for the current bill, despite not even having a majority in the Senate.

The days of a Republican NY Senate protecting us from bullshit like this are over because a couple “safe” Republican districts decided to nominate unelectable fringe idiots and handed the seats over to the Democrats. I’m honestly surprised the Assembly didn’t get more of their wish list considering Democrats have the Assembly by a huge margin, a razor slim margin in the Senate and the governors mansion.

---------- Post added at 08:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:59 AM ----------

The ray of hope I have for the future of this state is that list that the Assembly wanted is going to make a great Republican campaign video in every county north of NYC.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/372 "2013-01-18T05:57:31Z")

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It starts with local elections

Lots of people who vote democratic also love gun guns/2A stuff this might sway people back over to republican side even if they don’t agree with other political issues.

Combine this with taxes going up and people not smart enough to realize it didn’t really have anything to do with Obama

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**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/373 "2013-01-18T05:59:01Z")

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I was happy to see that both my state Senate and Assembly reps voted against this bill. But man, when 50 of 150 assemblymen are Dems from NYC, we’re Fd.

Dan

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/374 "2013-01-18T06:00:16Z")

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I think I already voted republican on all local elections, but yeah it’s starting to get to the point that I’ll put up with republicans oppressing minorities instead of the dems taking rights from everyone.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/375 "2013-01-18T06:02:32Z")

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NY is a lost cause because of NYC.

It would be interesting to see on a national level how much this changed swing states.

This issue for politicians here is by the time elections come whatever tragic events happen will be forgotten but the gun control thing will still be out front.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/376 "2013-01-18T06:08:08Z")

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Oh good my republican state senator (Grisanti) voted in favor of the law. :picard:  
Good time to reach across the aisle. :tup:

At least my republican state assemblyman (Ceretto) voted against it…

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/377 "2013-01-18T06:13:15Z")

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Grisanti just sucks. What a scumbag.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/378 "2013-01-18T06:49:56Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Oh good my republican state senator (Grisanti) voted in favor of the law. :picard:  
> Good time to reach across the aisle. :tup:
> 
> At least my republican state assemblyman (Ceretto) voted against it…

Here’s the thing though, how can you dig in and say no when you know what the Assembly is pushing for (bans, confiscations… that whole list of bullshit posted earlier) combined with the fact that Democrats have 33 of 63 seats in the Senate? If every Republican in the Senate dug in and said no, stopping the Senate from getting their version of the bill out first, the Assembly would have submitted their version. Now maybe a few moderate Democrats in the Senate would have refused to go along and maybe the Assembly bill never passes, but that’s a pretty huge gamble to take considering what was at stake.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/379 "2013-01-18T06:54:48Z")

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Interesting way to look at it. If he was just playing for the lesser of two evils though then why does he have a statement on the home of his senate webpage humping the bill?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/380 "2013-01-18T06:55:24Z")

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Very soon there might be a project looking for skeletons in many elected officials closets in NY 😉

A ton of FOIL requests went out already.

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