# NY about to pass strictest gun laws in nation **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [January 15, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195 "2013-01-15T03:31:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/561 "2013-01-30T07:57:51Z")
> **[Witnesses tangle over background checks at gun control hearing](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/30/nra-lapierre-to-tell-congress-more-gun-laws-not-serious-solution.html)** > > Influential figures on both sides of the gun control debate tangled Wednesday over the effectiveness of background checks, with the husband of wounded former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords urging an overhaul and a top National Rifle Association official... Senate hearing on “gun violence” is going on now. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/562 "2013-01-30T07:58:46Z")
Baurle(sp) is talking about yesterdays meeting right now. 107.7fm ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/563 "2013-01-30T10:06:09Z")
At least Japanese gun control is cool. It includes sword control. > Licenses for possession of swords are issued for individual swords for specific applications such as hunting, eradication of noxious birds and animals, slaughter of animals, fishing or construction, cases where possession is unavoidable due to Japanese customs and practice, cases where possession is unavoidable for plays or other artistic performances, and cases where such items are used for display in museums. The reasons for disqualification of ownership are substantially the same as that of firearms. No license is given for concealed swords. > The registration of swords is available for swords which are valuable as works of art, however only Japanese swords have been examined. Hunting with a sword? Fucking ninjas… ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/564 "2013-01-30T13:33:10Z")
Pistol grip guys, I have a question. > [@Geoff](#): > > I added a pistol grip/adjustable stock and new forend for a little more BA factor. Is that the main reason many of you go for a pistol grip long guns? I understand the value on a fully automatic gun, but I don’t see the advantage on semi or pump action. I’ve just never found a pistol grip to be a comfortable shooting grip on anything other than a pistol. Other than cosmetics, I don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/565 "2013-01-30T13:41:03Z")
I like it because I can apply a little forward pressure with my palm to lessen the recoil impact on my shoulder. Plus, I like the position it puts the lower hand in - gives the lower three fingers something to grab. I guess it also “increases maneuverability” for HD applications… but that’s probably just bull spit. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/566 "2013-01-30T14:06:27Z")
I want a slide fire stock. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/567 "2013-01-30T14:33:08Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > Pistol grip guys, I have a question. > > Is that the main reason many of you go for a pistol grip long guns? I understand the value on a fully automatic gun, but I don’t see the advantage on semi or pump action. What is the value on a fully automatic gun?! Its super comfy and easier to shoot?! durrr ---
**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/568 "2013-01-30T15:59:17Z")
Down to 1 ar to sell 🙂 then nothing but a bolt action in my future. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/569 "2013-01-31T08:43:28Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > What is the value on a fully automatic gun?! > > Its super comfy and easier to shoot?! durrr Super comfy/easy to shoot is subjective. Like I said, I don’t find it a comfortable shooting position… that’s why I asked. It provides better recoil recovery on fully auto or burst since the barrel is typically in line with the stock on those types of guns. That’s less of an issue in semi auto, and not an issue at all in pump applications, herp durrr. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/570 "2013-01-31T09:15:42Z")
Wasn’t aware that the barrel wasn’t inline with a pistol grip on a shot gun. Does the recoil change when switching between full auto/ burst to semi and pump? Well there is MORE recoil in a pump, bolt or lever action gun then the same caliber in semi, burst or full auto (all the same internally). So you need MORE help in recoil recovery for a gun that is pump, bolt or lever. A gas operated semi auto (same as burst or full auto) generally has much less kick due to the fact that the energy is used in cycling the weapon. You must be a really good shooter if recoil recovery isn’t an issue at all when you’re shooting a 12 gauge. 😕 People have pistol grips because they are comfortable for them. If you don’t like it, don’t put one on. You can have a nice AR like this so it is more comfortable to shoot for you. ![http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/images/exm1/IMG_3890_1K.JPG](http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/images/exm1/IMG_3890_1K.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/571 "2013-01-31T09:41:17Z")
Lollll ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/572 "2013-01-31T09:52:39Z")
I have 4 guns. All strictly for home defense. Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/573 "2013-01-31T11:09:45Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > Wasn’t aware that the barrel wasn’t inline with a pistol grip on a shot gun. Does the recoil change when switching between full auto/ burst to semi and pump? > > Well there is MORE recoil in a pump, bolt or lever action gun then the same caliber in semi, burst or full auto (all the same internally). So you need MORE help in recoil recovery for a gun that is pump, bolt or lever. A gas operated semi auto (same as burst or full auto) generally has much less kick due to the fact that the energy is used in cycling the weapon. > > You must be a really good shooter if recoil recovery isn’t an issue at all when you’re shooting a 12 gauge. 😕 > > People have pistol grips because they are comfortable for them. If you don’t like it, don’t put one on. > > You can have a nice AR like this so it is more comfortable to shoot for you. > ![http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/images/exm1/IMG_3890_1K.JPG](http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/images/exm1/IMG_3890_1K.JPG) Yes, there’s more kick/recoil, but you’re not firing at the same rate, so there’s more time to recover between shots, so it doesn’t seem to me to require the increased leverage. Like I said, not comfortable for me, so I was curious why other people were using them. Of my friends that are gun owners and that I’ve gone shooting with, only one has a pistol grip on one of his long guns. He bought it because he thought it looked cool, but he doesn’t really find it comfortable to shoot with either. I don’t shoot much, but his post seemed like a good chance to ask some other people, and from his post it seemed like for him it was a choice of form over function(at least from my perspective). It wasn’t intended as some kind of an insult or criticism, I’m just looking for some clarification on why you guys like them. “It’s more comfortable for me” is fine. “I think it looks bad ass” works too. Just interested in some other perspectives on it. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/574 "2013-01-31T11:27:41Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > Yes, there’s more kick/recoil, but you’re not firing at the same rate, so there’s more time to recover between shots, so it doesn’t seem to me to require the increased leverage. > > Like I said, not comfortable for me, so I was curious why other people were using them. Of my friends that are gun owners and that I’ve gone shooting with, only one has a pistol grip on one of his long guns. He bought it because he thought it looked cool, but he doesn’t really find it comfortable to shoot with either. I don’t shoot much, but his post seemed like a good chance to ask some other people, and from his post it seemed like for him it was a choice of form over function(at least from my perspective). > > It wasn’t intended as some kind of an insult or criticism, I’m just looking for some clarification on why you guys like them. “It’s more comfortable for me” is fine. “I think it looks bad ass” works too. Just interested in some other perspectives on it. As someone who has done a little bit of shooting in his lifetime, a pistol grip and even a thumb hole stock are far more functional over a rifle stock in most types of shooting. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/575 "2013-01-31T13:55:43Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > Yes, there’s more kick/recoil, but you’re not firing at the same rate, so there’s more time to recover between shots, so it doesn’t seem to me to require the increased leverage. > > Like I said, not comfortable for me, so I was curious why other people were using them. Of my friends that are gun owners and that I’ve gone shooting with, only one has a pistol grip on one of his long guns. He bought it because he thought it looked cool, but he doesn’t really find it comfortable to shoot with either. I don’t shoot much, but his post seemed like a good chance to ask some other people, and from his post it seemed like for him it was a choice of form over function(at least from my perspective). > > It wasn’t intended as some kind of an insult or criticism, I’m just looking for some clarification on why you guys like them. “It’s more comfortable for me” is fine. “I think it looks bad ass” works too. Just interested in some other perspectives on it. I’m going to guess that he or someone had added the pistol grip on the gun. There are lots of companies that sell shitty products. Some pistol grip stocks aren’t ergonomically designed, so maybe that one was just a bad design? Most pistol grip, thumb hole, Monte Carlo style stocks are much preferred over straight. > [@Freek](#): > > As someone who has done a little bit of shooting in his lifetime, a pistol grip and even a thumb hole stock are far more functional over a rifle stock in most types of shooting. +1 most guys including myself prefer them. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/576 "2013-01-31T14:06:31Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > I’m going to guess that he or someone had added the pistol grip on the gun. There are lots of companies that sell shitty products. Some pistol grip stocks aren’t ergonomically designed, so maybe that one was just a bad design? > > Most pistol grip, thumb hole, Monte Carlo style stocks are much preferred over straight. > > +1 most guys including myself prefer them. I think I’m having a vocabulary issue here. I perfer the type of stocks you posted. When I said pistol grip, I was referring to the style geoff added to his gun, in the post I quoted. My friend has a Remington 870 tactical. ![http://i.imgur.com/0t1i5oL.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/9/196f5d0691339dd91fb79f8aa78564b4c07f6802.jpeg) Edit: I guess i figured there was a difference between a pistol grip and a pistol grip stock. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/577 "2013-01-31T14:33:24Z")
Got yah The top one I posted is generally considered a Monte Carlo, followed by Thumb Hole. The pistol grip stock above is probably very comfortable to most people as ergonomically it should be very similar to the MC and TH. There are poor designs that have horrible pistol grip placement that make the gun worse to shoot. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/578 "2013-01-31T20:24:46Z")
ok, now I assume you get where I’m coming from at least. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/579 "2013-02-02T16:44:45Z")
Not sure if anyone saw this or if it’s a re post but a friend of mine sent me the info. Perfect example of this law working backwards. Wonder if the search was legal? Cuomo = retard. > **[Decorated Combat Veteran Arrested: Charged With 5 Felonies For Possession of AR...](https://www.infowars.com/decorated-combat-veteran-arrested-in-new-york-charged-with-5-felonies-for-possession-of-ar-magazines/)** > > Off Grid Survival | A decorated War Hero has been arrested and charged with five counts of third degree criminal possession of a weapon. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/580 "2013-02-02T18:32:20Z")
^Think that’s fucked? How about a national place force? > **[Liveleak.com - The Latest Obama Disgrace: Effort to abolish local sheriffs a...](https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1359322731)** > > A news report has been quietly making its way around the alternativ.. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=28) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=30)