# NY about to pass strictest gun laws in nation **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [January 15, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195 "2013-01-15T03:31:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/41 "2013-01-15T06:37:05Z")
Looking over the bill briefly it seems that it’s tailored towards people who hunt. Guns are for hunting and sport. What about self defense? This bill is borderline retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/42 "2013-01-15T06:59:55Z")
wow, unbelievable… so now I can only carry 7 rounds in my already artificially reduced 10 round g19 mags? Plus all this other bs. and now my ccw needs to be renewed? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/43 "2013-01-15T07:01:03Z")
> [@Jim1234664](#): > > and now my ccw needs to be renewed? Yep, can’t wait to see what the fee is going to be for that every 5 years re-certification. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/44 "2013-01-15T07:01:47Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > This can bring me right to a lack of personal responsibility rant which is growing in our nation by the minute. Measures like this and crazy shit like “soda tax”, lax social programs, crazy ass lawsuit victories, many modern labor laws, etc enforce people to really feel think as if someone else is always responsible for when things don’t go perfect. \rant > > 🖕 > > :bigtdown: People would rather be shackled to the wall than stand on their own. You can quote me on that. :thankyou: I love that this bill says that physicians, therapists, RN’s, and social workers must declare someone unsafe to own a gun and they can’t be held criminally negligent as long as their decision was “in good faith.” It just got a whole lot riskier to be a social worker. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/45 "2013-01-15T07:02:20Z")
^So now doctors get to determine your 2nd amendment rights? Nice. > [@cougarspeed](#): > > +1 > > Also after having served believing to be protecting our freedoms… ☹ According to some govt documents you are already a threat because you served in the military. How is that for a thank you? ---
**Author:** ![FourEyed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/foureyed/32/7216_2.png) [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/46 "2013-01-15T07:06:39Z")
I don’t want to hurt anyone. I do my best to follow the law. I do my best to be a responsible gun owner. I already complied with the 10 round limit, now it’s 7. Where does it stop? I was fine yesterday, but am a criminal today because I have “evil” items that I bought legally as recent as last week. Now what will they say is an “excessive” ammo purchase? Hell I can go through 800 rounds on a Saturday shooting targets HOW DOES THIS EFFECT CRIMINALS WHO WON’T OBEY THESE LAWS!? The mental health part is scary too… They don’t know where to stop…you could be deemed mentally unstable if: You served and have PTSD You took medication as a kid You had consoling as a kid You get “angry” and someone reports you You seek treatment after a tragedy or loss of life Where does it end? ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/47 "2013-01-15T07:09:46Z")
> [@FourEyed](#): > > I don’t want to hurt anyone. > I do my best to follow the law. > I do my best to be a responsible gun owner. > I already complied with the 10 round limit, now it’s 7. Where does it stop? > I was fine yesterday, but am a criminal today because I have “evil” items that I bought legally as recent as last week. > > HOW DOES THIS EFFECT CRIMINALS WHO WON’T OBEY THESE LAWS!? It will work just as our DWI, Alcohol, Substance policies work…100% effectively. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/48 "2013-01-15T07:13:01Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > ^So now doctors get to determine your 2nd amendment rights? Nice. Yeah as part of the “Mental Hygiene Code.” This is the summary of that part, not the actual text of the law. > Provisions Related to Persons with Mental Illness > Amendments to the Mental Hygiene Law will help ensure that persons who > are mentally ill and dangerous cannot retain or obtain a firearm. > First, mental health records that are currently sent to NIDCS for a > federal background check will also be housed in a New York State > database. A new Section 9.46 of the Mental Hygiene Law will require > mental health professionals, in the exercise of reasonable > professional judgment, to report if an individual they are treating > is likely to engage in conduct that will cause serious harm to > him- or herself or others. A good faith decision about whether to report > will not be a basis for any criminal or civil liability. When a > Section 9.46 report is made, the Division of Criminal Justice > Services will determine whether the person possesses a firearms > license and, if so, will notify the appropriate local licensing > official, who must suspend the license. The person’s firearms will > then be removed. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/49 "2013-01-15T07:17:13Z")
Someone started this already [https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rule-ny-safe-act-be-unconstitutional/W2KLT6t8](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rule-ny-safe-act-be-unconstitutional/W2KLT6t8) ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/50 "2013-01-15T07:19:40Z")
Well, I might as well fart in a wind tunnel, but I’ll sign it. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/51 "2013-01-15T07:19:54Z")
so when are we marching on albany? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/52 "2013-01-15T07:21:51Z")
Article 9 of the Mental Health Act covers “Hospitalization of the Mentally Ill” so based on this part of the law being a subset of Article 9 I would take it to mean that people hospitalized for in-patient treatment of mental illness will have their rights subject to the whims of their doctors. :tif: Sketchy ground for sure, but not as bad as any therapist or doctor being able to prevent anyone they treat from getting a gun. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/53 "2013-01-15T07:23:47Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > Someone started this already > > [The White House](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rule-ny-safe-act-be-unconstitutional/W2KLT6t8) We need to stop with the damn petitions. The Administration has an agenda and they will do what they please. The response will say something about making our communities safer, protecting the rights of hunters and sportsmen. Probably throw something in about Uncle Joe Biden and his Beretta. Give me a break. Fuck this. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/54 "2013-01-15T07:29:04Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > We need to stop with the damn petitions. The Administration has an agenda and they will do what they please. The response will say something about making our communities safer, protecting the rights of hunters and sportsmen. Probably throw something in about Uncle Joe Biden and his Beretta. Give me a break. Fuck this. got a better idea? ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/55 "2013-01-15T07:32:23Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > got a better idea? There are no options. The big thing was to call our elected officials. That worked fantastically. You even had slimeballs like Grisanti stating he was pro 2nd amendment and then voted in favor of this idiotic plan. NY State is a lost cause unless the courts overturn it. So here are the options: Don’t comply, bend over and grab your ankles or move to a state that has voted to nullify this bullshit. Thats it. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/56 "2013-01-15T08:00:15Z")
Louisiana is looking better and better now. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/57 "2013-01-15T08:10:08Z")
Louisiana never looks good. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/58 "2013-01-15T08:11:04Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > There are no options. The big thing was to call our elected officials. That worked fantastically. You even had slimeballs like Grisanti stating he was pro 2nd amendment and then voted in favor of this idiotic plan. NY State is a lost cause unless the courts overturn it. So here are the options: Don’t comply, bend over and grab your ankles or move to a state that has voted to nullify this bullshit. Thats it. You sound like someone who never really started fighting for what they believe in. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/59 "2013-01-15T08:15:06Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > Louisiana never looks good. If you’re at all interested in guns it does. Helps when you know people down there as well. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/60 "2013-01-15T08:18:36Z")
> [@Freek](#): > > You sound like someone who never really started fighting for what they believe in. Oh, ok Mike. Got me. I don’t think you really believe that some online petition to the president is going to make him have a change of heart? Our own state senator straight lied to us. I have been doing the e mail and phone call thing and i know others like LZ and Nitrojoe have been doing the same. Didn’t help us one bit. As I said, in this state our last hope is the courts. That is just the sad reality of this. I mean whats next? Another Lexington and Concord? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=4)