# NY about to pass strictest gun laws in nation **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [January 15, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195 "2013-01-15T03:31:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/661 "2013-02-12T05:49:52Z")
Erie County has a proposed resolution "Rec’d from GOP Erie County, NY legislators. A RESOLUTION TO BE SUBMITTED BY LEGISLATORS EDWARD A. RATH, III JOHN J. MILLS KEVIN R. HARDWICK LYNNE M. DIXON JOSEPH C. LORIGO Re: Opposing the New York SAFE Act of 2013 WHEREAS, on January 14, 2013, the NY SAFE (Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement) Act of 2013 was introduced to the New York State Assembly and Senate; and WHEREAS, the New York State Senate passed the thirty-nine page overhaul of the state’s gun law the same day, while the assembly considered the bill a few more hours before passing it on January 15, 2013; and WHEREAS, the Governor signed the bill into law the same day, on January 15, 2013; and WHEREAS, the celerity of passage of this law is remarkable for the state legislature and Governor, though lamentably not admirable in this particular instance; and WHEREAS, although certain aspects of the law appear to be thoughtful approaches to reduce instances of gun violence involving New Yorker’s, others appear to be knee-jerk reactions made without the benefit of appropriate contemplation at best, or, at worst, disingenuous fee grabs cloaked as security measures; and WHEREAS, the Webster provision’s stiffer penalties for individuals who murder first responders in the course of their duties is appropriate and overdue; and WHEREAS, the provision protecting information about registered gun owners is an effective way to reduce information to individuals who seek to commit crimes against an individual because of his or her status as gun owner, or not having the protection provided by a gun; and WHEREAS, the provisions addressing mental health appear to be thoughtful efforts to address individuals who may use a weapon for illegal and violent purposes; and WHEREAS, similarly, the safe storage provisions appear to be measures to keep weapons away from individuals who are shown to be more likely to use weapons for illegal and violent purposes, as well the provisions giving judges discretion to require surrender of a weapon by a person against whom an order of protection is granted; and WHEREAS, the provision prohibiting the possession of a gun on a school bus or on school grounds without the written authorization of the school appears to be an effective way to separate children from guns, although probably not from people who seek to use guns for illegal and violent purposes; and WHEREAS, unfortunately, the tougher assault weapons ban is overly inclusive and ineffective at reducing gun violence by individuals who use guns legally; and WHEREAS, for example, the Remington 870, classic pump-action shotgun, a very common shotgun used by sportsmen, can be interpreted to fit the new definition of “assault weapon;” and WHEREAS, further, unlike other provisions, this particular provision does not focus on individuals who use, or are a substantial threat to use, guns illegally and for violent purposes ; and WHEREAS, also, reducing the ammunition magazine size from ten to seven does little to reduce gun violence by individuals using guns illegally, and nothing to reduce gun violence by law abiding gun owners; and WHEREAS, similarly, statewide recertification of handguns does not reduce the use of guns by individuals who seek to use them illegally; and WHEREAS, rather, it has the appearance of being an effort by New York State government to fill its coffers with increased fees, without providing for a mechanism to fund county clerks to accommodate the increased workload resulting from this law; and WHEREAS, the Second Amendment, “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” continues to be a part of the United States Constitution; and WHEREAS, New York’s SAFE Act appears to contain provisions which infringe upon the Second Amendment rights of its people; and WHEREAS, as such, the New York SAFE Act should be repealed, revisited, carefully considered, revised and implemented in a manner that is respectful of the Second Amendment rights of New Yorkers. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Erie County Legislature hereby supports repeal and revision of the New York SAFE Act of 2013; and be it further RESOLVED, that a certified copy of this resolution be forwarded to Governor Andrew Cuomo, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, Senate Majority Leaders Dean Skelos and Jeffrey Klein and the local delegation to the New York State Legislature. Fiscal Impact: None." ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/662 "2013-02-12T06:17:49Z")
Maybe they were just seeing if people were paying attention with this “SAFE” act? Maybe they wanted to see how far they could push us? Hopefully they lose this battle in court and realize some things you just can’t take from us. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/663 "2013-02-12T07:38:34Z")
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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/664 "2013-02-12T18:49:00Z")
this is the kind of craziness that goes on to the north of us- > **[Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers](http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/man-faces-jail-after-protecting-home-from-masked-attackers)** > > Ian Thomson moved to a rural homestead in Southwestern Ontario to lead a quiet life investing in a little fixer-upper. Then his neighbour’s chickens began showing up on his property. He warne… ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/665 "2013-02-12T19:14:14Z")
> [@9c1ny](#): > > this is the kind of craziness that goes on to the north of us- > > [Breaking News, Headlines and Stories | National Post](http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/20/man-faces-jail-after-protecting-home-from-masked-attackers/) That is just ridiculous. One of the worst things I have read I some time. ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/666 "2013-02-12T20:08:36Z")
That is bullshit ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/667 "2013-02-12T20:28:32Z")
fuckin cananigains. ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/668 "2013-02-12T20:33:18Z")
this article really drives home the point of the absurdity of the case- [http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/01/lorne-gunter-why-hang-ian-thomson-for-the-crime-of-protecting-himself/](http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/01/lorne-gunter-why-hang-ian-thomson-for-the-crime-of-protecting-himself/) ---
**Author:** ![Dekar12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@Dekar12](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dekar12)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/669 "2013-02-13T06:06:44Z")
> [@9c1ny](#): > > this article really drives home the point of the absurdity of the case- > > [http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/01/lorne-gunter-why-hang-ian-thomson-for-the-crime-of-protecting-himself/](http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/01/lorne-gunter-why-hang-ian-thomson-for-the-crime-of-protecting-himself/) Don’t worry, we will have to deal with that here in the states soon too. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/670 "2013-02-13T06:31:04Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > That is just ridiculous. One of the worst things I have read I some time. +1 ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/671 "2013-02-13T07:17:13Z")
So sad, I want to help that poor man out. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/672 "2013-02-13T07:38:12Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > So sad, I want to help that poor man out. Sponsor him for a US Visa and show him how awesome TX treats gun owners. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/673 "2013-02-13T07:57:14Z")
They mention the Castle Law in some US states in that article but if he went outside his house and someone was using dealy force(fire bombs) against him wouldn’t that just be self defense? ---
**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/674 "2013-02-13T09:03:52Z")
Attention Monroe County Gun owners and constitutional rights advocates. Now is the time to voice your opinion, now is the time to be heard! Several counties are making efforts to take a stand against the SAFE act. The latest is Erie county, if they can, we can to! Monroe may be blue on paper but we have some of the best Permit laws in NY, no approved amendments, no extra classes and best of all no restrictions! Not to mention Our sheriff has come out against the SAFE act, and now it’s time to move forward! Make your voice heard! Points of contact: 1: Anthony J. Daniele®, Majority Leader 10th District–Brighton, East Rochester, Pittsford 31 Monroe Avenue, Pittsford, NY 14534 Phone: (w) 585 753-1922; (h) 585 271-1111 [monroe10@monroecounty.gov](mailto:monroe10@monroecounty.gov) 2: [http://www2.monroecounty.gov/executive-index.php](http://www2.monroecounty.gov/executive-index.php) This page contains the email addresses and phone number for Maggie Brooks and others. Start emailing, start calling and remind them that they work with and for all of us residents! ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/675 "2013-02-13T11:24:44Z")
the good news in all of it is Mr Thomson WAS acquitted recently- [http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/01/04/matt-gurney-after-two-years-judge-acquits-man-who-defended-himself-with-a-gun/](http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/01/04/matt-gurney-after-two-years-judge-acquits-man-who-defended-himself-with-a-gun/) ---
**Author:** ![iwanagofast1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a9adbd/32.png) [@iwanagofast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iwanagofast1)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/676 "2013-02-13T14:31:38Z")
Whenever I see a Cuomo commercial on TV, I yell FUCK YOU at the TV. But that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Tim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tim/32/5211_2.png) [@Tim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tim)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/677 "2013-02-13T15:06:17Z")
> [@iwanagofast1](#): > > Whenever I see a Cuomo commercial on TV, I yell FUCK YOU at the TV. But that’s just me. Funny, I do the same exact thing. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/678 "2013-02-15T13:27:43Z")
![http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m169/evileyeswatchin/New_York_State_county_map_zps07a5280c.jpg](http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m169/evileyeswatchin/New_York_State_county_map_zps07a5280c.jpg) Green are counties that passed resolutions against the SAFE act Yellow are counties with an upcoming vote against it Big rally on the 28th in Albany [https://www.facebook.com/events/204049709733039/](https://www.facebook.com/events/204049709733039/) ---
**Author:** ![Gl1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gl1/32/5471_2.png) [@Gl1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gl1)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/679 "2013-02-15T13:37:48Z")
wow, that has exploded in the past couple days. ---
**Author:** ![Tim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tim/32/5211_2.png) [@Tim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tim)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/680 "2013-02-15T14:05:36Z")
So if these resolutions are passed does that mean those counties are exempt from the SAFE act? So we just go back to the old AWB? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=35)