# NY about to pass strictest gun laws in nation **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [January 15, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195 "2013-01-15T03:31:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/161 "2013-01-15T15:17:57Z")
How would any of this prevented sandy? I’m out of this shit state asap, regardless if federal is similar. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/162 "2013-01-15T15:19:59Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > I read the law but I am confused as to it’s effective date. If I understand this right we have 90 days to sell any preban magazine over 10 rounds, 1 year to register guns we already own and we can’t have more than 7 rounds in a magazine as of right now. Your dates/times are correct. If you currently own a 10rd mag you have to load it with 7 :lol: all new purchases must have 7rd mags. The ban on purchased all AWBs/whatever is effective immediately. ---------- Post added at 06:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:18 PM ---------- I would never leave NY over this specific item however it does add to a very long list of other reasons. The other side of this is I would expect a complete ban on the registered ARs and other AWBs at some point in 5-10 years. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/163 "2013-01-15T15:39:46Z")
well i guess im a criminal then. In posession of a fully loaded 10 rd mag (oh the horror…) fantastic ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/164 "2013-01-15T15:42:08Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > The other side of this is I would expect a complete ban on the registered ARs and other AWBs at some point in 5-10 years. yup. this is a perfect way for them to force us into creating a master list for them to come knocking on doors to revoke your registered weapons. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/165 "2013-01-15T15:43:17Z")
It’s pretty funny CT, NY, MD are all trying to push emergency laws However Texas and a number of other states are rushing to put bills to block any federal guns bans ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/166 "2013-01-15T15:44:14Z")
> [@focusinprogress](#): > > yup. this is a perfect way for them to force us into creating a master list for them to come knocking on doors to revoke your registered weapons. The 5 year reg is a money grab to me. I think they see this as a way to fuck over responsible gun owners for a much needed revenue stream. Will it be per gun, per person…what will the fee be etc… ---
**Author:** ![Johnnyv412](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnnyv412/32/5226_2.png) [@Johnnyv412](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnyv412)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/167 "2013-01-15T15:44:29Z")
Im stuck at work so im not seeing whats going on so I have a couple questions. I understand about the magazines and that doesnt effect me cause im allowed to buy the bigger mags. But as for the weapons themselves, ive gathered that you cant buy them online anymore, but will I be able to go to a store and purchase a new ar or any other assault rifle? Or are they banning all future sales and just grandfathering the exist ing ones in. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/168 "2013-01-15T15:44:59Z")
> [@focusinprogress](#): > > yup. this is a perfect way for them to force us into creating a master list for them to come knocking on doors to revoke your registered weapons. It already happened once in NYC I’m no conspiracy guy but if you watched the exchange between McLaughlin it sounded like NY was going for a full ban and went to the current law. ---------- Post added at 06:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:44 PM ---------- > [@Johnnyv412](#): > > Im stuck at work so im not seeing whats going on so I have a couple questions. I understand about the magazines and that doesnt effect me cause im allowed to buy the bigger mags. But as for the weapons themselves, ive gathered that you cant buy them online anymore, but will I be able to go to a store and purchase a new ar or any other assault rifle? Or are they banning all future sales and just grandfathering the exist ing ones in. > > Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Banning all future sales can grandfather what you have if you register it. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/169 "2013-01-15T15:49:31Z")
> [@Johnnyv412](#): > > Im stuck at work so im not seeing whats going on so I have a couple questions. I understand about the magazines and that doesnt effect me cause im allowed to buy the bigger mags. But as for the weapons themselves, ive gathered that you cant buy them online anymore, but will I be able to go to a store and purchase a new ar or any other assault rifle? Or are they banning all future sales and just grandfathering the exist ing ones in. > > Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 High cap mags, I’m guessing your LEO/Military? What I’m hearing from the inside is lawyers are trying to determine if there is still a LEO exemption. I would find it funny if they took away LEO exempt status and then expected them to go confiscate other peoples stuff. Kinda need that carrot to make people do what you want IMO. Either way, good luck fellas. ---
**Author:** ![Johnnyv412](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnnyv412/32/5226_2.png) [@Johnnyv412](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnyv412)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/170 "2013-01-15T15:50:20Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > It already happened once in NYC > > I’m no conspiracy guy but if you watched the exchange between McLaughlin it sounded like NY was going for a full ban and went to the current law. > > ---------- Post added at 06:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:44 PM ---------- > > Banning all future sales can grandfather what you have if you register it. So as of now you cant go and buy any form of ar?? And if you dont own one now you cant ever own one legally in yhe future?? What about guns like the 10/22? If you have a pistol grip it needs to be registered as well? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/171 "2013-01-15T15:51:49Z")
I can sell you a lower lol ---------- Post added at 06:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 PM ---------- > [@Johnnyv412](#): > > So as of now you cant go and buy any form of ar?? And if you dont own one now you cant ever own one legally in yhe future?? > What about guns like the 10/22? If you have a pistol grip it needs to be registered as well? > > Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Pretty much if you don’t own one now or acquire one via private purchase before the end of the year. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/172 "2013-01-15T15:57:13Z")
> [@Johnnyv412](#): > > So as of now you cant go and buy any form of ar?? And if you dont own one now you cant ever own one legally in yhe future?? > What about guns like the 10/22? If you have a pistol grip it needs to be registered as well? > > Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Removable mag + pistol grip = 2 “evil” options I gather. The new law drops us to 1 allowed “evil” option from what I’ve read. Can anyone confirm or deny? The legal docs are impossible for non laywers to read IMO. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/173 "2013-01-15T15:59:24Z")
from what I gather you can’t own a semi auto rifle with a detachable mag. ---
**Author:** ![\_x1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_x1/32/5108_2.png) [@\_x1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_x1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/174 "2013-01-15T16:03:23Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > from what I gather you can’t own a semi auto rifle with a detachable mag. What about a .22? Seems a bit excessive to ban all semi automatic rifles? I was under the impression it was just assault rifles. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/175 "2013-01-15T16:04:22Z")
> [@)><(((x>;3430363](#): > > What about a .22? Seems a bit excessive to ban all semi automatic rifles? I was under the impression it was just assault rifles. It’s not just a rifle thing, is it? I thought it was affecting pistols too? ---
**Author:** ![\_x1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_x1/32/5108_2.png) [@\_x1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_x1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/176 "2013-01-15T16:06:10Z")
Well this just got a lot more retarded. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/177 "2013-01-15T16:06:13Z")
there is so much gun talk here because it’s topical… WOW SURPRISE!!! i read about this thing going through the senate and thought it was made up. these laws are harmful to the whole anti-gun lobby and helpful to the pro-gun lobby because the laws wont have any impact. > [@TrueBlue](#): > > I gotta read about which five-figure watch to buy and dick wipes, you get to read about firearms. Sorry buttercup. you’re welcome by the way. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/178 "2013-01-15T16:07:20Z")
I don’t know how much this will do, but you guys can always sign a petition: [https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rule-ny-safe-act-be-unconstitutional/W2KLT6t8](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rule-ny-safe-act-be-unconstitutional/W2KLT6t8) ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/179 "2013-01-15T16:08:31Z")
Wait…so having a detachable magazine pretty much means a rifle can’t have any other attachments? Am I reading this right? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195/180 "2013-01-15T16:11:17Z")
> [@)><(((x>;3430363](#): > > What about a .22? Seems a bit excessive to ban all semi automatic rifles? I was under the impression it was just assault rifles. (A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE 44 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: 45 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 46 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF 47 THE WEAPON; 48 (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 49 (IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 50 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 51 (V) A BAYONET MOUNT; 52 (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED 53 BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR 54 MUZZLE COMPENSATOR; 55 (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR S. 2230 19 A. 2388 ``` 1 (B) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING 2 CHARACTERISTICS: 3 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 4 (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 5 (III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 6 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 7 (IV) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF SEVEN ROUNDS; 8 (V) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR 9 (C) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE ``` 10 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: 11 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 12 (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 13 (III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 14 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 15 (IV) CAPACITY TO ACCEPT AN AMMUNITION MAGAZINE THAT ATTACHES TO THE 16 PISTOL OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL GRIP; 17 (V) A THREADED BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH 18 SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER; 19 (VI) A SHROUD THAT IS ATTACHED TO, OR PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY ENCIR- 20 CLES, THE BARREL AND THAT PERMITS THE SHOOTER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH 21 THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED; 22 (VII) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN THE PISTOL IS 23 UNLOADED; OR 24 (VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION OF AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR 25 FIREARM; 26 (D) A REVOLVING CYLINDER SHOTGUN; 27 (E) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC 28 PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN SUBPARAGRAPH (V) OF PARAGRAPH (E) OF SUBDI- 29 VISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER AS ADDED BY CHAPTER 30 ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY-NINE OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND AND OTHERWISE 31 LAWFULLY POSSESSED PURSUANT TO SUCH CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND 32 PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER FOURTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR; 33 (F) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC 34 PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (A), (B) OR (C) OF THIS SUBDIVI- 35 SION, POSSESSED PRIOR TO THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THE CHAPTER OF THE 36 LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH; 37 (G) PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE: 38 (I) ANY RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL THAT (A) IS MANUALLY OPERATED BY 39 BOLT, PUMP, LEVER OR SLIDE ACTION; (B) HAS BEEN RENDERED PERMANENTLY 40 INOPERABLE; OR (C) IS AN ANTIQUE FIREARM AS DEFINED IN 18 U.S.C. 41 921(A)(16); 42 (II) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE 43 THAT HOLDS MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; 44 (III) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT CANNOT HOLD MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS 45 OF AMMUNITION IN A FIXED OR DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR 46 (IV) A RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL, OR A REPLICA OR A DUPLICATE THEREOF, 47 SPECIFIED IN APPENDIX A TO 18 U.S.C. 922 AS SUCH WEAPON WAS MANUFACTURED 48 ON OCTOBER FIRST, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-THREE. THE MERE FACT THAT A 49 WEAPON IS NOT LISTED IN APPENDIX A SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO MEAN THAT 50 SUCH WEAPON IS AN ASSAULT WEAPON; 51 (V) ANY WEAPON VALIDLY REGISTERED PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF 52 SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER. SUCH WEAPONS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE 53 PROVISIONS OF PARAGRAPH (H) OF THIS SUBDIVISION; 54 (VI) ANY FIREARM, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN THAT WAS MANUFACTURED AT LEAST 55 FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, BUT NOT INCLUDING REPLICAS THERE- S. 2230 20 ---------- Post added at 07:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:09 PM ---------- So yes if it has a detachable mag it can’t have any other “feature” [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-gun-laws-in-nation/228195.md?page=10)