# NY about to pass strictest speeding laws in nation

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 26, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393 "2013-01-26T03:34:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/41 "2013-01-28T20:55:19Z")

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> [@snowracer101](#):
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> i still don’t understand why everyone HATES on speeding…
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> yeah, school zones, villages etc…
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> but, if you’re doing 78 in a 65 on the 219 between boston and springville at 2pm… are you REALLY putting lives in danger?
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> I understand laws are laws…but, really… come on.
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> I think your fine should vary on the road you are on… 7mph over in a school zone at 2:30pm? $150… 16 over on the 219 at 11pm at night… $50. but that’s just me

I would be in favor of money fines and get rid of the point system completely so I can just pay the speeding tax and go on about my business rather than having to pay a lawyer and playing the game

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/42 "2013-01-29T11:24:46Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> Interestingly enough:
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> If you can’t plea down a 20 over ticket, that means you get 11 points, which means you get a DRA, which is 675 dollars, plus an 85 dollar state surcharge, plus the fine just for speeding. 20 over will cost you 1000 dollars. No joke.

And if you do it in the city of buffalo and push back the court date several times and get a lawyer it ends up closer to $1400. I know people with a DWI that got off easier.

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**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/43 "2013-01-29T12:24:44Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> Interestingly enough:
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> If you can’t plea down a 20 over ticket, that means you get 11 points, which means you get a DRA, which is 675 dollars, plus an 85 dollar state surcharge, plus the fine just for speeding. 20 over will cost you 1000 dollars. No joke.

Im pretty sure thats the maximum fine in Ontario for 20 over right now.

> [@somedude](#):
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> I would be in favor of money fines and get rid of the point system completely so I can just pay the speeding tax and go on about my business rather than having to pay a lawyer and playing the game

So basically if youre rich, the road is your personal speedway… sounds safe.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/44 "2013-01-29T13:43:16Z")

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> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> So basically if youre rich, the road is your personal speedway… sounds safe.

Obviously, what a horrible statement. If you truly are rich you can do whatever you want anyways. Since I don’t have a NYS driver license the points don’t bother me one bit. Still it’s not worth the hassle of getting pulled over to speed. If you want to speed you do it in a group with a lead car clearing the way, everyone with two way radios. Really easy we do it all the time lol.

This is just for the average joe that get nailed doing 10 over or whatever. I’ve gotten tickets in Hamburg for 6 over and the likes (51 in 45) come on.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/45 "2013-01-29T19:55:53Z")

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> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> Im pretty sure thats the maximum fine in Ontario for 20 over right now.
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> So basically if youre rich, the road is your personal speedway… sounds safe.

if you’re rich in NY, you can run over a girl on a skateboard, leave her for dead, and get away with it… what’s your point?

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**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/46 "2013-01-29T20:08:05Z")

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> [@snowracer101](#):
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> if you’re rich in NY, you can run over a girl on a skateboard, leave her for dead, and get away with it… what’s your point?

Mental note: free beer for snoracer101.

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**Author:** ![Terry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/terry/32/7207_2.png) [@Terry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Terry)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/47 "2013-01-30T05:48:31Z")

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Yeah, I’d say VA is the worst. I’ve heard stories about $1500 fines for serious tickets and they don’t reduce anything there. Florida has some stupidly strict laws for excessive speeding (like 40 over) also.

I don’t see the huge deal. I’m occasionally an idiot on the street but got my first speeding ticket last September in years…and that was in my DD. If you’re not stupid and know when and how to do it it’s pretty hard to get caught…especially with a good radar detector (and knowing how to use it).

> [@newman](#):
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> Interestingly enough:
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> If you can’t plea down a 20 over ticket, that means you get 11 points, which means you get a DRA, which is 675 dollars, plus an 85 dollar state surcharge, plus the fine just for speeding. 20 over will cost you 1000 dollars. No joke.

Not 100% correct…I brushed up on this as that September ticket I got was 23 over. 21-30mph is 6 points which kicks in the DRA of $100 a year for 3 years. With the $85 surcharge on that you’re paying $385 to the state alone plus whatever the town/village/city throws at you. Every point over that is $25 so if you did get an 11 point ticket (which is 40+ over) then yeah, it’d be a $1000 ticket. However, at 11 points your license is suspended so you have other problems to worry about. 😛

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**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/48 "2013-01-30T06:06:19Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Obviously, what a horrible statement. If you truly are rich you can do whatever you want anyways. Since I don’t have a NYS driver license the points don’t bother me one bit. Still it’s not worth the hassle of getting pulled over to speed. If you want to speed you do it in a group with a lead car clearing the way, everyone with two way radios. Really easy we do it all the time lol.
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> This is just for the average joe that get nailed doing 10 over or whatever. I’ve gotten tickets in Hamburg for 6 over and the likes (51 in 45) come on.

Wait are you saying Texas (or are there any states that) dont use a point system or do they just not share between states?

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**Author:** ![95dime](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/95dime/32/7514_2.png) [@95dime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95dime)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/49 "2013-01-30T06:10:37Z")

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> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> Wait are you saying Texas doesnt use a point system or do they just not share between states?

points are not shared between states.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/50 "2013-01-30T06:13:25Z")

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> [@95dime](#):
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> points are not shared between states.

I dont think thats true in all cases, im pretty sure many states have agreements. At least thats what ive been told in the past.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/51 "2013-01-30T06:18:16Z")

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> [@95dime](#):
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> points are not shared between states.

They do with states that touch NY

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/52 "2013-01-30T07:04:33Z")

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> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> I dont think thats true in all cases, im pretty sure many states have agreements. At least thats what ive been told in the past.

Most states don’t have a points system period (or have them but don’t really use them). NY only shares with a few boarding states. I can drive with my Texas license never have to worry about the stupid points system. In most cases a speeding ticket from someone out of state ends in an agreed fine amount and you’re done. A state may contact another state about a ticket but they usually only care if you don’t show or pay and it gets turned into a bench warrant.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/53 "2013-01-30T07:14:36Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> They do with states that touch NY

This has never been true.

> [@DMV.NY.GOV"](#):
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> Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic violation in Ontario of Quebec.

However, DC/MD/VA/DE do all accept points from eachother. Which is the worst.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/54 "2013-03-13T10:41:00Z")

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wrong thread. lol

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-about-to-pass-strictest-speeding-laws-in-nation/228393/55 "2013-03-13T11:48:20Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> They do with states that touch NY

yes when i had my NYS license i would speed constantly in PA and now with a PA license i don’t worry about tickets in NY…the only thing they will share is a DUI/DWI arrest.

as for the VA thing they also have some kind of law where if you are witnessed doing 3 violations in a short period of time they can hit you for some kind of umbrella violation that will take away your license. at least that is what the trooper told me after pulling me over on the beltway. supposedly i was speeding, changing lanes “too quickly” and following too closely…and on top of that i didn’t even slow when there was an accident on the other side of the jersey barrier…why the hell would i slow down to rubber neck?

after all of that he just let me go?

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