# NY budget, some simple numbers **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 18, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961 "2008-12-18T07:14:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/1 "2008-12-18T07:14:33Z")
Reading the article on CNN about the budget “outrage” in NY, the number $121 billion really stuck out. That’s the cost of the current proposed budget. It got me wondering what other large states spend on their state budgets. Florida is the closest to us in population, at 18.2 million to NY’s 19.2 million. **Florida’s proposed state budget for 08/09… 70 billion** Really? There’s no where to cut when we’re spending 51 billion more than a state with just 5.5% less people. I guess FL must be like some 3rd world country with such limited government spending. Sources: Population: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_U.S.\_states\_by\_population](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population) NY budget: [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/18/new.york.budget/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/18/new.york.budget/index.html) FL budget: [http://www.ebudget.state.fl.us/(S(ivdzlm55efgwjvu2f5wlt545)](http://www.ebudget.state.fl.us/(S(ivdzlm55efgwjvu2f5wlt545)))/bdagencies.aspx?full= ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/2 "2008-12-18T07:23:04Z")
The glorious times of having a city with 10 million people in it in your state. ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/3 "2008-12-18T07:23:29Z")
Not to try and defend NYS because believe me, I’m so F’n pissed at this state its not even funny. But I’m sure Florida brings in a lot more dollars from tourism which helps them. Let’s be honest, who the hell comes to visit NY. Does that equate to $51 billion, no chance in hell, but I’m sure its something. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/4 "2008-12-18T07:25:18Z")
> [@mike125k](#): > > Not to try and defend NYS because believe me, I’m so F’n pissed at this state its not even funny. > > But I’m sure Florida brings in a lot more dollars from tourism which helps them. Let’s be honest, who the hell comes to visit NY. Does that equate to $51 billion, no chance in hell, but I’m sure its something. yeah, like totally, no one goes to New York City / nothing that makes money goes on there ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/5 "2008-12-18T07:25:44Z")
We probably spend $50 billion in pothole repair. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/6 "2008-12-18T07:25:49Z")
Not really explaining any huge gaps, but i wonder what road maintenance costs are like in each state. EDIT: DAMNIT Jaeger! ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/7 "2008-12-18T07:26:44Z")
I believe floridas tourism eliminates the state income tax as well ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/8 "2008-12-18T07:27:12Z")
> [@Jim1234664](#): > > yeah, like totally, no one goes to New York City / nothing that makes money goes on there I’m betting Florida draws a lot more tourism overall than NYC does. Granted I’m sure we bleed tourists dry when they come to NYC with all our wonderful taxes. Again, I’m in no way trying to justify Gov. Blind Idiot’s new plan, I’m just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/9 "2008-12-18T07:29:45Z")
[http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/ind\_inc.html](http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/ind_inc.html) ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/10 "2008-12-18T07:37:33Z")
I think some of you are missing the point. Regardless of how the tax money is made, they spend over 50billion less than we do. Thats what they spend. So what are the reasons that our state needs to spend 50 billion a year more? We have: 1. road maintenance. 2. 3. 4. 5. I bet it comes down to one phrase, social programs. How is it in a state that is known for old people going there to die, we have higher medicaid costs? Maybe florida doesn’t pay for every fucktard to go the the ER for a cold for starters. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/11 "2008-12-18T07:37:53Z")
I want to see comparisons to other large northern states. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/12 "2008-12-18T07:38:33Z")
Florida offers a great retirement plan. It is a bus ticket to NY. (or so the joke goes) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/13 "2008-12-18T07:38:49Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > How is it in a state that is known for old people going there to die, we have higher medicaid costs? Maybe florida doesn’t pay for every fucktard to go the the ER for a cold for starters. ya know, that’s a great point ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/14 "2008-12-18T07:40:23Z")
florida makes alot of money on death tax, or at least afaik last I heard ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/15 "2008-12-18T07:41:32Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:12,topic:59961"”] Florida offers a great retirement plan. It is a bus ticket to NY. (or so the joke goes) [/quote] Should that be NY has a great retirement plan…yada yada. ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/16 "2008-12-18T07:42:48Z")
I would guess that health care would probably explain the variances. State funded medicade programs account for a huge portion of the budget. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/17 "2008-12-18T08:08:21Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > I want to see comparisons to other large northern states. PA is the closest northern state by population with 12.3 million. Their budget for 08/09 is 28.3 billion. 34% less people, 77% less money spent. > [@Carnut](#): > > florida makes alot of money on death tax, or at least afaik last I heard Again, not the point. We don’t care how they get their money. The fact remains that we’re **spending** 51 billion more. What I’d really like to know is why our so called news agencies aren’t putting the politicians on the spot in front of the cameras with cold hard numbers like these. This took me all of 2 minutes to look up. Spend a solid day going over various state budgets and you could outline item by item where NY is really blowing our money. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/18 "2008-12-18T08:10:45Z")
While the populations maybe be close the fact that nearly 10million people live in nyc is what truely screws us over. When we go over budget plans for where I work we always need to look at how the money is given to NYC its gross. If we could spread the population of NYC to Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse etc…etc… I bet socioeconomically speaking our country would be better off. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/19 "2008-12-18T08:15:00Z")
Or make them their own state… much like DC or something. I wonder how that would effect NYC ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961/20 "2008-12-18T08:29:21Z")
yea, the fact they are spending 50 billion less then we are is insane and just goes to show how fucked up this state gov actually is… florida also gets away with having NO state income tax. NYS also has no limits on welfare… thats a BIG cost… but Florida has all the seniors on medicade… so THATS a big cost… [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ny-budget-some-simple-numbers/59961.md?page=2)