# NYC School wont allow "God Bless the USA" song at graduation **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 11, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063 "2012-06-11T20:31:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/61 "2012-06-13T12:55:29Z")
:lol ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/62 "2012-06-13T13:01:08Z")
No, it definitely wasn’t founded as a Christian nation. I’ll use a quotation from Kerry Walters here: > The Founding Fathers weren’t all Christian. Some, of course, were: Patrick Henry (Episcopalian), John Hancock (Congregationalist), John Jay (Episcopalian), and Sam Adams (Congregationalist), for example, were all devout and pretty conventional Christians. **But the big players in the founding of the United States—such men as Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Adams, and probably Alexander Hamilton—weren’t. Each of them was much more comfortable with a deistic understanding of God than a Christian one. For them, the deity was an impersonal First Cause who created a rationally patterned natural order and who was best worshiped through the exercise of reason and virtue.** Most of them may have admired the ethical teachings of Jesus (although Paine conspicuously did not), but all of them loathed and rejected the priestcraft and superstition they associated with Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/63 "2012-06-13T13:05:20Z")
Okay, let me rephrase. “A Godly Nation” Better? :lol Which again…goes back to what I said earlier. Being a believer is more about a relationship or what not with whatever God you believe in and less about that of a religion, which is rules and a physical building (the church). We’re going in circles now guys. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/64 "2012-06-13T13:17:32Z")
Typical Ilya ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeremiah/32/6318_2.png) [@Jeremiah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeremiah)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/65 "2012-06-13T18:46:07Z")
> [@strange problem installing XP SP2 (dual boot w/vista64)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/strange-problem-installing-xp-sp2-dual-boot-w-vista64/49896/3): > > America was most definitely a ‘christian nation’ if you look at it’s history. Those days have long since passed and here we are.[/COLOR][/B] You have that backwards. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/66 "2012-06-13T19:06:27Z")
Cut the foreign kid some slack man. You just offended me :lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063/67 "2012-06-13T19:33:15Z")
Maybe in Northeast on Internet forum with young-er people it seems like most people arent religious but this is just about the most likely group to be atheist. As long as it matters in politics, religion defines legal marriage, abortion, sets the norms, has their own radio and tv channels and shows, churches every block and rules the Southern states, it’s definitely not dead or even arguably dying. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyc-school-wont-allow-god-bless-the-usa-song-at-graduation/264063.md?page=3)