# NYS passes $15 minimum wage \[for ~200k fast food workers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [July 21, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706 "2015-07-21T15:25:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/161 "2015-07-26T05:16:57Z")
> [@slo ride](#): > > tell me more about this money-making architect. > > the part about this $15/hour thing that kills me is that is just about how much I was making starting at an architecture firm out of school in 2005. Somehow I managed to get by on $30k a year until I started to get raises. that sounded suspicious… I made $13 drafting lol ---
**Author:** ![lorge1989](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lorge1989/32/6153_2.png) [@lorge1989](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lorge1989)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/162 "2015-07-26T05:36:29Z")
Not all college degrees are a waste. Depends on the school, if there is a need for people with your degree and if you received any scholarships. If you bust your ass in high school.and apply like crazy for scholarships you can get a lot of your tuition paid for. I went to UB, bought a house my first year out of school and paid off my student loans in under 3 years. And I only had a partial scholarship the first year. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/163 "2015-07-26T07:16:58Z")
> The $15 rule only applies to chains with 30 or more locations This is going to protect the small business but I can also where it might hurt it. Seems like its going to create a ton of inequality, think taco bell vs mighty / chain pizza vs local pizza. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/164 "2015-07-26T07:28:14Z")
It will be interesting to see how these chains change their tactics to make themselves excluded from this. They say that ‘fast food’ is considered to be paid for at the counter. Don’t be surprised when they start rolling out table service to avoid the ‘fast food’ classification. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/165 "2015-07-26T07:36:47Z")
> [@JustinH](#): > > College degree thing is a joke I agree. > > Guy I know dropped out of high school in the 10th grade. Bought rental houses, and has been renting them out for 15 years. Also works a trade and makes good money. Has no debt, owns all his properties free and clear and the money just piles up in the bank. > > My wife went to Hilbert for her Undergraduate, then UB For her Masters in Social Work. Then state of Texas gave her a license, now she still needs 2 years of “Supervision” so that she can get the Clinical License for social work. > > Meanwhile she makes $35k and owes $600 per month in student loans. > > I went to shitty tech school in NY, and came to Texas and got a bunch of IT certs, and my student loan payment is under $100 per month, and I make double what the wife does, and I’ve only been down here 3 years. wife and I are very similar. She went to Nazareth for undergrad and The Hartt school for masters and teaches in a school district. I went to UTI, turned wrenches, worked to get a desk job and now make double her income… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/166 "2015-07-26T08:05:28Z")
A 4 year degree at this point is largely a waste of money thanks to everyone getting masters degrees :lol: 4 year became the new high school diploma 🙂 There was a point in time where it wasn’t YOU HAVE TO GOTO COLLEGE because there were lots of trades you could get into and make really good money but nobody wants to do that anymore. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/167 "2015-07-26T08:22:22Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > A 4 year degree at this point is largely a waste of money thanks to everyone getting masters degrees :lol: > > 4 year became the new high school diploma 🙂 > > There was a point in time where it wasn’t YOU HAVE TO GOTO COLLEGE because there were lots of trades you could get into and make really good money but nobody wants to do that anymore. It’s of course field specific but…a BS degree and 2 years work experience will initially trump a 6 year Masters degree I imagine. Bachelors have become a mere foot in the door while the Masters degree seems to have lost its competitive edge in many cases…because everyone has one. Kids got their BS, couldn’t find a job and said might as well rack up more debt for the Masters. I’m not looking to discuss BA degrees…just because. LOL ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/168 "2015-07-26T08:38:42Z")
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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/169 "2015-07-26T08:45:07Z")
Goddamn. They probably tell applicants in lieu of pay their benefits & retirement will make up the difference. ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/170 "2015-07-26T08:50:10Z")
LZ thats a lot more than 8.75/hr when you factor all the crazy benefits. I make just a hair less working for the state than I would elsewhere, but factoring in my benefits (family health ins $300/mo, $500k life ins. W/short and long term dis for $30/mo and retire w/70% pension) I make way more. Architecture sucks (pay wise) but 8.75 sucks a big one Thinking about it more, I don’t think I have ever made that little, even BS crap jobs in high school ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/171 "2015-07-26T09:41:05Z")
Man I couldn’t imagine living on 8.75. Hell, I need to clear like $20-25 an hour just to get by. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/172 "2015-07-26T10:16:21Z")
> [@slo ride](#): > > tell me more about this money-making architect. > > the part about this $15/hour thing that kills me is that is just about how much I was making starting at an architecture firm out of school in 2005. Somehow I managed to get by on $30k a year until I started to get raises. Not much to tell ya, he worked for a design firm and now for Roswell. Has a waterfront townhouse that was 3xxK and a huge camp at Rushford. Maybe he just got lucky. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/173 "2015-07-27T08:47:56Z")
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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/174 "2015-07-27T10:32:32Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > They DO look at the data. They just use data they want from the source they want. > > Boxxa quoted a DOL “myth busting” page likely without realizing that the DOL isn’t really a primary source, its visible side (website) is arguably biased because it’s part of the [executive branch](https://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/executive-branch) under the Obama administration and used older data. If you are arguing the exec branch manipulates data and can’t be trusted, not sure if you want to start with Obama because it has been pretty much maxed out under the right wing exec office. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/175 "2015-07-27T13:32:23Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > If you are arguing the exec branch manipulates data and can’t be trusted, not sure if you want to start with Obama because it has been pretty much maxed out under the right wing exec office. There isn’t anything to argue about. There isn’t a single executive branch that hasn’t spun numbers in their favor regardless of political affiliation. In fact there is a position in charge of doing just that: press secretary 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/176 "2015-07-27T14:59:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/177 "2015-07-27T17:00:51Z")
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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/178 "2015-07-27T18:17:09Z")
Hahaha, I’m so glad I don’t use Facebook anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/179 "2015-07-27T18:27:48Z")
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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nys-passes-15-minimum-wage-for-200k-fast-food-workers/272706/180 "2015-07-27T18:41:01Z")
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