# NYSMSP Basic RiderCourse 2 & Advanced RiderCourse **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 8, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010 "2013-12-08T19:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/1 "2013-12-08T19:35:43Z")
Has anyone taken a MSF class other than the basic “get your license” course held at HVCC? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/2 "2013-12-09T15:52:20Z")
Personally I took the first class and never looked back. If you want to take your riding to the next level. You need to go to a motorcycle school like the CSBS. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/3 "2013-12-09T17:04:57Z")
Is that a racing school? I’m not looking to get into that… Unless they have bikes that you can borrow and ride around a racetrack, in that case interested. Kinda. Lol ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/4 "2013-12-09T17:42:24Z")
Never took the advanced course so sorry I can’t help. I took te basic for my license a while back and regretted it. It was basically a course for anyone who has never seen a motorcycle before, i felt like i wasted my money. Based on that course I would expect to much for the “advanced” rider course. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/5 "2013-12-10T05:37:00Z")
You got the insurance discount for your car and motorcycle insurance though. That’s definitely paid for the course by now. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/6 "2013-12-10T05:55:09Z")
> [@so sad](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-sad/53703/4): > > You got the insurance discount for your car and motorcycle insurance though. That’s definitely paid for the course by now. sure but you can get that with a $40 defensive driving course. I think the hvcc class was like $250 when I took it like 10 years ago. I do know you get an additional motorcycle insurance discount for the advanced course though, not sure how much but I was asked if I took it when I switched insurance this past year. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/7 "2013-12-10T06:02:30Z")
You can, but you can only have one defensive driving course at a time. If you do both they’ll both pay for themselves. That’s what I did anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/8 "2013-12-11T16:23:08Z")
> [@2 del sol's racing both dead?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-del-sols-racing-both-dead/53699/113): > > Is that a racing school? I’m not looking to get into that… Unless they have bikes that you can borrow and ride around a racetrack, in that case interested. Kinda. Lol California super bike school dose let you use a bike for an added fee, but the level of control you learn far suppresses anything we have up here. > [@so sad](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-sad/53703/4): > > You got the insurance discount for your car and motorcycle insurance though. That’s definitely paid for the course by now. This. The class was insanely easy… I watched people drop bikes and pass. Saw a guy plow into a tree on a 250 while wearing gardening gloves worth every penny!:rofl ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/9 "2013-12-11T20:27:32Z")
lmao @ garden gloves ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/10 "2013-12-12T07:50:19Z")
LOOOOL I would pay $250 to see that any day ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/11 "2013-12-12T16:51:44Z")
I took the BRC and worked for me. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/12 "2013-12-14T18:34:36Z")
I believe theres an office right next to Synapse now vs having to go to hvcc if you are in this area(saratoga). I took the course years ago and thought it was worth the cost back then. I have no idea what it costs now but id still say tothose that have little riding experience its definitely not a bad choice by any means. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/13 "2013-12-18T18:51:35Z")
I believe it’s still $250 like some of the guys said. It was decent, but as mentioned, it’s for people who’ve never seen a bike before. Some of the maneuvers weren’t even Bike 101…more like Bike 100. Also, the bikes are complete crap. The clutch levers on those things will give you carpal tunnel. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/14 "2013-12-18T21:47:02Z")
You can use your own bike in the advanced courses. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/15 "2013-12-19T07:26:44Z")
You’re required\* to use your own bike in the advanced courses. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/16 "2013-12-23T07:40:05Z")
> [@SUNDAY RADIO](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sunday-radio/51129/22): > > Personally I took the first class and never looked back. If you want to take your riding to the next level. You need to go to a motorcycle school like the **CSBS**. chickenshitbullshit ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/17 "2013-12-23T07:52:34Z")
Bob SAGET ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/18 "2013-12-23T16:43:57Z")
Feet ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/19 "2013-12-23T17:26:15Z")
feet are gross ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010/20 "2013-12-23T18:58:58Z")
Boots Pjb. You need boots [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysmsp-basic-ridercourse-2-advanced-ridercourse/268010.md?page=2)