# Obama and Guns v.Buffalo News **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 13, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062 "2009-04-13T09:19:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/101 "2009-04-15T13:31:47Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Once that’s done we’ll banish StrokedZ to stand on the wall and apologize for what ever he wants for the next 4 years. Seriously, I thought you were one of the more wiser people on the board. I guess you are just another one of the “AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!” people. We have made mistakes, admitting to them is the first thing to do when trying to correct them. A lot of damage in world opinion was done in the last eight years and we are going to have to have the world on our side if we want to win the war on terror. We can not do it alone. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/102 "2009-04-15T13:35:08Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > WTF are you even talking about?!?! > We should show humility because Mexico does not care/check what is coming into their country. SERIOUSLY? Now that should be our responsibilty too? Wow. > Maybe it would be better to just open the boarder so I could hire their people leagally too. Well if our gun culture is helping the violence in Mexico… Where is all the gun nuts pointing their displeasure that American guns are being smuggled out of this country to fuel drug wars in Mexico? ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/103 "2009-04-15T13:38:42Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Stop the world tour of apologies and fix our fucking economy. > He can start by building the wall. So now you want him to fix the economy? His European tour was a success and helped bolster our view to the rest of the world. I know you don’t care what the rest of the world thinks because you are a closed minded person who believes the world ends 20 miles off our coasts but for the rest of us its not only important to have the world actually begin to look up at us again and not down on us but it feels good too. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/104 "2009-04-15T13:40:03Z")
Stroked, your opinions get more and more off base with each post. You really think the US should be apologizing to Mexico because Mexico has no control of what comes into their country? Seriously? Yeah, having you tell me I’m not one of the “wise” members of this board really hurts. EDIT: PS, his European tour was a complete failure. He wanted two things, more support for the war in Afghanistan and a pledge for the European countries to agree to stimulus packages similar to what the US is doing. He got neither. He looked great as the campaigner in chief though, smiling like a jackass in front of crowds I guess he doesn’t realize can’t vote for him. > **[European Leaders Push Back on Obama's Calls for Aid](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123689700452612473)** > > European leaders rejected Obama's push for more global fiscal stimulus, saying the problem is lax regulation. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/105 "2009-04-15T13:44:38Z")
:lol: 😢 ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/106 "2009-04-15T14:13:21Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Stroked, your opinions get more and more off base with each post. You really think the US should be apologizing to Mexico because Mexico has no control of what comes into their country? Seriously? Hey we didn’t start the fighting their nor do I think we are responsible for their own gov’t not being able to take control. But if we are illegally supplying the weapons for this war then I think that something we should try to control. If we had a better handle on our firearms then they wouldn’t fall into the hands of drug cartels. And again, where is the NRA calling for action on American guns falling into the hands of Mexican drug cartels? I’m mean is it our countries fault that the weapons being used in Mexico are funneled illegally from the US? Yes. I’m not going to take responsibility for their war but we should take some responsibility for the American products fueling the war. You see two guys fighting in a bar and you hand one of them a knife you don’t think you are apart of the fight now? ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/107 "2009-04-15T14:15:07Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > EDIT: > PS, his European tour was a complete failure. He wanted two things, more support for the war in Afghanistan and a pledge for the European countries to agree to stimulus packages similar to what the US is doing. He got neither. He looked great as the campaigner in chief though, smiling like a jackass in front of crowds I guess he doesn’t realize can’t vote for him. > [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123689700452612473.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123689700452612473.html) You honestly think any of that shit was going to be done over night? Its going to take a few more summits to repair the damage done to European relations in the last eight years. ---
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/108 "2009-04-15T14:28:40Z")
Hey Stroked - get your pistol permit yet? lol ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/109 "2009-04-15T14:57:50Z")
Where’s Mexico apologizing to the US for not cracking down on their citizens smuggling in drugs leading to people dying of OD’s, etc? Or kidnapping US business people/tourists for ransom money? ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/110 "2009-04-15T14:59:33Z")
> [@DrDoS](#): > > Hey Stroked - get your pistol permit yet? > lol Nah, fucking NYS now says it will take close to 16 months. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/111 "2009-04-15T15:00:59Z")
> [@mike125k](#): > > Where’s Mexico apologizing to the US for not cracking down on their citizens smuggling in drugs leading to people dying of OD’s, etc? Or kidnapping US business people/tourists for ransom money? I think they should, and I think they should do more to stop that shit as well. I’ll make a deal. We’ll work on the guns going into Mexico if they work on the drugs going into the US. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/112 "2009-04-15T16:00:26Z")
When they apologize for all of their border jumpers I’ll be on board with apologizing for our gun runners. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/113 "2009-04-15T18:10:12Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > When they apologize for all of their border jumpers I’ll be on board with apologizing for our gun runners. Two wrongs don’t make a right. ---
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/114 "2009-04-15T18:18:56Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Nah, fucking NYS now says it will take close to 16 months. not if you are in Niagara county. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/115 "2009-04-15T19:16:31Z")
> [@DrDoS](#): > > not if you are in Niagara county. I do live in Niagara County… …12 months? ---
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/116 "2009-04-15T21:59:41Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > I do live in Niagara County… > > …12 months? 3-6 months. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062/117 "2009-04-15T22:04:58Z")
> [@DrDoS](#): > > 3-6 months. Damn…I still don’t know anyone here for the interviews. Everyone I know lives in Erie County. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-and-guns-v-buffalo-news/66062.md?page=5)