# Obama bails out unions too? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 30, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189 "2009-01-30T10:33:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/1 "2009-01-30T10:33:40Z")
[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap\_on\_go\_pr\_wh/obama\_labor](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_labor) > [@Jimmy Hoffa (no](#): > > “It’s a new day for workers,” said James Hoffa, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, who attended the ceremony with other union leaders. “We finally have a White House that is dedicated to working with us to rebuild our middle class. Hope for the American Dream is being restored.” So now stuff produced by middle class workers is going to cost more, and that is really going to help the american economy, as we continue to raise the costs associated with production of goods. And people wonder why everything is made in China. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/2 "2009-01-30T10:37:41Z")
SSShhhh! It’s change. Do you want to see this country fail or something? Damn anti-American. EDIT: PS, James Hoffa is _that_ Jimmy Hoffa’s son. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/3 "2009-01-30T10:39:02Z")
![http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/office_space_kit_mat.jpg](http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/office_space_kit_mat.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/4 "2009-01-30T10:41:18Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > EDIT: > PS, James Hoffa is _that_ Jimmy Hoffa’s son. I know, but I didn’t want people coming in here and saying “They found him?!!!” And I thought we already discussed how its the unions that are responsible for cars NOT costing $4000. (amongst other things, but they’d definitely be cheaper otherwise) ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/5 "2009-01-30T10:42:06Z")
Yeah, not too sure about this one… :picard: EDIT - Is this supposed to raise wages? What exactly makes you assume that this will raise costs? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/6 "2009-01-30T10:45:49Z")
If i had to guess, he wants to increase the capital distribution. This is generated by charging a premium for manufactured products. However, this only works if the product is superior to others. This is frequently not the case… ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/7 "2009-01-30T10:48:46Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > EDIT - Is this supposed to raise wages? What exactly makes you assume that this will raise costs? Unions + more bargaining leverage + white house support + obama wanting middle class to earn more = wages increasing. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/8 "2009-01-30T11:04:07Z")
> [@sureshot007](#): > > Unions + more bargaining leverage + white house support + obama wanting middle class to earn more = wages increasing. = Cost of goods increasing ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/9 "2009-01-30T11:05:18Z")
> [@camarojoe](#): > > = Cost of goods increasing = more people buying cheap Chinese stuff ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/10 "2009-01-30T11:06:56Z")
Of the White House Task Force on Middle Class Working Families, Obama said, “We’re not forgetting the poor. They are going to be front and center, because they, too, share our American Dream.” Hey President Dipshit, The unions are NOT the poor! ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/11 "2009-01-30T11:12:22Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Hey President Dipshit, The unions are NOT the poor! so you don’t feel that the unions are one of the key ways that poor people with little education can become solid middle class? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/12 "2009-01-30T11:14:57Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > so you don’t feel that the unions are one of the key ways that poor people with little education can become solid middle class? No, because the more power you give unions over US companies the more those US companies either go out of business or move jobs overseas. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/13 "2009-01-30T11:19:10Z")
I’m not exactly pro-union after how out of control and corrupt they have become (IMO)… but I do understand their purpose and value. and you dodged my question… ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/14 "2009-01-30T11:26:51Z")
![http://beatsandrants.blogs.com/hiphop/images/_Dave_Chappelle_As_Prince.jpg](http://beatsandrants.blogs.com/hiphop/images/_Dave_Chappelle_As_Prince.jpg) I’m here to save shit. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/15 "2009-01-30T11:27:43Z")
:lol: It just gets better and better and its only been a week 🙂 3 years 51 Weeks and counting. Theres my favorite word again with this administration…Transparent…too bad its only after the fact. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/16 "2009-01-30T11:34:32Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > :lol: > > It just gets better and better and its only been a week 🙂 > > 3 years 51 Weeks and counting. I am going to start a list. First he shuts GITMO, then he gives his first interview to a Muslim TV channel. You can’t make this shit up. lol ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/17 "2009-01-30T11:35:41Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > so you don’t feel that the unions are one of the key ways that poor people with little education can become solid middle class? Yeah, right up until they drive millions of jobs overseas and destroy the country… oh wait, that already happened. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/18 "2009-01-30T11:36:04Z")
Why is the first interview such a big deal? He jumped into his job and started working right away. Our international relations are more important than a fucking news interview. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/19 "2009-01-30T11:37:23Z")
![http://freedomofphiladelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/stfu.jpg](http://freedomofphiladelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/stfu.jpg) We didn’t start whining until Bush’s policies started noticably fucking up the country. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-bails-out-unions-too/62189/20 "2009-01-30T11:38:24Z")
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