# Obama clears way for oil drilling off US coasts **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [March 31, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502 "2010-03-31T09:21:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/21 "2010-03-31T13:15:58Z")
Side note: Didn’t T Boone Pickens just scrap his wind power investment because he said there is NO WAY to make money? ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/22 "2010-03-31T13:34:26Z")
Just wait till the turbines are past there life cycle and need to be torn down or replaced, where do you think that money will come from? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/23 "2010-03-31T13:42:48Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Side note: Didn’t T Boone Pickens just scrap his wind power investment because he said there is NO WAY to make money? Yeah, he did, thankfully IMHO. > **[Pickens Scales Back Ambitious Wind Farm (Published 2009)](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/business/energy-environment/08wind.html)** > > As the recession hit, the plan was also hurt by a lack of transmission lines and a fall-off in the price of a rival energy source. He wanted to generate 4000 MW of power from a wind farm using 200000 acres. The Palo Verde nuclear plant in Arizona does almost that (3,739 MW) using just 4000 acres, and it’s not even using modern nuclear plant design since we can’t build new plants in the US. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/24 "2010-03-31T15:24:51Z")
this probably has nothing to do with campaign financing… ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/25 "2010-03-31T15:34:00Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Wind will be our generation’s 190/skyway but on a much larger scale of fail. You invest a ton of land for a tiny amount of energy when compared to any other power generating facility and people say, “well, it’s not like we’re using that land”. A couple generations from now we’ll want to use that land and our children’s children will be going, “why did my asshole grandparents think using up all our available land with these stupid windmills was a good idea?”. The land that will be used for wind farms can be used in conjunction with agricultural crops. Do you really think we need to continue over populating this place? We need open space for farms, no matter what happens in the future. There are smart and efficient ways to do this even in places that would otherwise never be used for anything at all. And keep in mind that there are other places that are able to produce a good portion of their energy needs through wind generated electricity. Denmark is the highest with 19%. I’m not saying that we need to dump all of our money and time into this yesterday, but we need to start making the right steps so we aren’t faced with a disaster when the choice is made for us, regardless of whether or not we like it. Fry makes a good point. There will be a time when wind and solar energy are far cheaper and easier than obtaining oil supplies. But I think that day is far beyond any of our lives. ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/26 "2010-03-31T23:01:11Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I was shocked to see he went for this. Should be interesting to see how the far left feel about it, though I see Joe is already to fall in line behind Obama despite being so against this when the Republican’s were calling for it. You noticed that too, huh ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/27 "2010-03-31T23:10:23Z")
> And there are most certainly a number of things that we will not see turning away from oil anytime soon. Like cars for example. But the infrastructure that we use to power our homes can be greatly altered if we wanted to do it. Don’t quote me on this because I read it a while back, but when doing research for a turbine project I read that the amount of wind power that isn’t being harnessed in the middle of the country is more than enough to power this entire continent. If we dedicate resources into building that infrastructure, and developing newer more efficient technology to produce and store the energy that we’re letting blow by it could be a great benefit to us and the world alike. The only time I ever really got excited and hopeful about alternative energy is when a professor of mine was explaining solar technology. Our current solar panel are only able to capture energy from one spectrum of light. If scientist are able to come up with a way to harness the power from the full spectrum, solar panels will produce 8x more power. Suddenly solar panels become cost effective when they produce the same amount of power that a panel 8x their size and 8x their cost (obviously the new tech will be a bit more expensive). ---------- Post added at 02:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:01 AM ---------- [/COLOR] > Not to mention how our entire food system would collapse without oil to make synthetic fertilizers. Not just the fertilizer. Oil runs everything from the processing plant to the huge tractors and other farm equipment. It would be very difficult to feed the country using only manpower without slaves. Even if it was pulled off, the cost of food would be high as f@#$ to pay for all the labor involved. I know that you already know this, I’m just expanding on your point. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/28 "2010-04-06T15:27:01Z")
:tup: I am with Obama on this. We need to utilize the remaining oil supplies while we figure out alternative, sustainable energy sources for the future. Right now we would be screwed without oil. If we ran out of oil tomorrow, I am willing to bet 3/4ths of our population (USA) would die within a few years. ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/29 "2010-04-06T18:40:36Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > :tup: I am with Obama on this. We need to utilize the remaining oil supplies while we figure out alternative, sustainable energy sources for the future. > > Right now we would be screwed without oil. If we ran out of oil tomorrow, I am willing to bet 3/4ths of our population (USA) would die within a few years. I’d be first inline at the bank for a loan to make coal based everything since it’s by far one of our largest resources. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/30 "2010-04-06T18:44:51Z")
> [@sobo](#): > > I’d be first inline at the bank for a loan to make coal based everything since it’s by far one of our largest resources. Oh god. :picard: Harvesting energy from coal is one of the biggest polluters and is not a realistic mid or long term option. Just look China’s air quality, that’s how they over-took us in emissions; coal. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/31 "2010-04-08T09:31:49Z")
> [@sobo](#): > > I’d be first inline at the bank for a loan to make coal based everything since it’s by far one of our largest resources. I said SUSTAINABLE. Coal would eventually just run out like everything else… ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/32 "2010-04-08T14:32:11Z")
Natural gas is a lot more feasible bridge…plus we have a ton of that. ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/33 "2010-04-08T14:50:20Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > Any word on allowing new refineries to be built? Isn’t that the #1 concern right now with oil supply? +1 I don’t follow politics much at all, too much of a cluster fuck and usually too much of a joke for me to care…but i thought the lacking refineries was one of the biggest problems? ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502/34 "2010-04-08T20:56:08Z")
> [@9ONA3OOZX](#): > > +1 > > I don’t follow politics much at all, too much of a cluster fuck and usually too much of a joke for me to care…but i thought the lacking refineries was one of the biggest problems? Incase anyone was wondering how Obama got elected ^ [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-clears-way-for-oil-drilling-off-us-coasts/152502.md?page=1)