# Obama gives part of AZ to Mexico

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**Created:** [June 17, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755 "2010-06-17T14:05:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/1 "2010-06-17T14:05:05Z")

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WTF?! What complete BS.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/2 "2010-06-17T14:20:20Z")

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sweet, whats next

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**Author:** ![Dread](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dread/32/6544_2.png) [@Dread](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dread)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/3 "2010-06-17T14:41:30Z")

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The sheriff is right, Obama is all talk no action and when he does take action its to do something completly ridiculous like this.

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**Author:** ![McLen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mclen/32/6354_2.png) [@McLen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McLen)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/4 "2010-06-17T16:17:54Z")

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![http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/images/ac/af/968722/original_image.png?1236669578](http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/images/ac/af/968722/original_image.png?1236669578)

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**Author:** ![MX-5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mx-5/32/6336_2.png) [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/5 "2010-06-17T16:33:04Z")

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/6 "2010-06-17T16:39:13Z")

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What does this guy think he’s an indian?

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/7 "2010-06-17T18:20:49Z")

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Huge exaggeration of the facts. _need rolleyes smiley SINGH_

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/8 "2010-06-17T18:47:43Z")

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The facts are: Drug cartels and traffickers have basically taken over an area of our nations border, while Obama has ceased funding to continue building the wall/fence/border security/etc. Basically he is saying, here ya go, you can use this section of our border to invade.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/9 "2010-06-17T18:48:02Z")

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WTF is going on down there? That makes me want to get a shit ton of guns and ammo, go down there and shoot all of them.

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**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/10 "2010-06-17T19:15:54Z")

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Complete Bull…

```
                                               <b> Fox News is full of it..... </b>

                                                                                                                                                             [http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges...016%202010.pdf](http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges/arizona/buenosaires/PDFs/USFWS%20MediaAdvisory%20BorderRefugeRemainsOpen%206%2016%202010.pdf)

```

For Immediate Release  
Contacts: Jose Viramontes, 505/248-6404 (of); 505/550-3113 (cell); [jose\_viramontes@fws.gov](mailto:jose_viramontes@fws.gov)  
BORDER REFUGE NOT CLOSED  
Several media outlets have been inaccurately reporting that a massive stretch of the US border at  
Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge (NWR) was recently closed. Buenos Aires NWR in  
southern Arizona has not been closed to the public. **Nearly 5-years ago** , a very small portion of the  
Refuge closed to public access due to public safety concerns. However, the remainder (99.98%) of  
the refuge’s 118,000 acres is open to the public for recreational activities such as hiking, camping,  
bird-watching, and seasonal hunting.  
Recent news items further falsely stated that the closure extends from the border 80-miles to the  
north. This distance is far from accurate. On October 6, 2006 roughly 3500 acres, or 0.02% of the  
Refuge, was closed to public access due to human safety concerns. At that time there was a marked  
increase in violence along the border due to human and drug trafficking. The closed area extends  
north from the international border roughly ¾ of a mile. A notice of the closure, including a map  
has been on the Refuge website since 2006.  
At this time there are no plans to reopen this southernmost 3/4-mile wide portion of the Refuge.  
However, since 2006 the Refuge has experienced a significant decline in violent activity in the area  
thanks to ongoing cooperation between the US Fish and Wildlife Service and US Customs and  
Border Protection. The Refuge will reopen the area at such time that it is determined to be safe for  
visitors.  
Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge’s placement along the international border with Mexico  
within the Altar Valley of southern Arizona provides a unique opportunity to protect remnants of a  
fragile desert ecosystem and to provide refuge for some of the region’s most imperiled species of  
plants and wildlife. Since its establishment, refuge staff have diligently worked to protect species  
such as the masked bobwhite quail and the Sonoran pronghorn, as well as to offer meaningful  
public recreation opportunities.

* * *

The mission of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is working with others to conserve, protect and  
enhance fish, wildlife, plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people.  
We are both a leader and trusted partner in fish and wildlife conservation, known for our scientific  
excellence, stewardship of lands and natural resources, dedicated professionals and commitment to  
public service. For more information on our work and the people who make it happen, visit  
[www.fws.gov](http://www.fws.gov/).  
[www.fws.gov/southwest/](http://www.fws.gov/southwest/)

[http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges…Fs/Closure.pdf](http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges/arizona/buenosaires/PDFs/Closure.pdf)

The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service  
has closed a portion of the Buenos  
Aires National Wildlife Refuge  
south of the Garcia Road to public  
use, under authority found in 8  
RM 13.5 and 50 CFR 25.21(e)  
**effective October 3, 2006.** Garcia  
Road runs east/west parallel to  
the international boundary about  
one mile north of the line. This  
area is about 3500 acres in size.  
Our concern for public safety is  
paramount.  
The situation in this zone has  
reached a point where continued  
public use of the area is not prudent.  
The Buenos Aires National Wildlife  
Refuge has been adversely affected  
by border-related activities. The  
international border with Mexico has  
also become increasingly violent.  
Assaults on law enforcement officers  
and violence against migrants have  
escalated. Violence on the Refuge  
associated with smugglers and  
border bandits has been welldocumented.  
Many of these activities  
are concentrated at, or near, the  
border. The concentration of illegal  
activity, surveillance and law  
enforcement interdictions make  
these zones dangerous.  
Closure is in effect until further  
notice.  
Mitch Ellis  
Buenos Aires NWR  
Refuge Manager

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**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/11 "2010-06-17T19:16:31Z")

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Sorry for the crap formatting to lazy to go back and fix it.

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**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/12 "2010-06-17T19:33:00Z")

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> [@Whats the chinese food...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-the-chinese-food/32766/9):
>
> Complete Bull…
> 
> ```
> <b> Fox News is full of it..... </b>
> 
> [http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges...016%202010.pdf](http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges/arizona/buenosaires/PDFs/USFWS%20MediaAdvisory%20BorderRefugeRemainsOpen%206%2016%202010.pdf)
> 
> ```
> 
> For Immediate Release  
> Contacts: Jose Viramontes, 505/248-6404 (of); 505/550-3113 (cell); [jose\_viramontes@fws.gov](mailto:jose_viramontes@fws.gov)  
> BORDER REFUGE NOT CLOSED  
> Several media outlets have been inaccurately reporting that a massive stretch of the US border at  
> Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge (NWR) was recently closed. Buenos Aires NWR in  
> southern Arizona has not been closed to the public. **Nearly 5-years ago** , a very small portion of the  
> Refuge closed to public access due to public safety concerns. However, the remainder (99.98%) of  
> the refuge’s 118,000 acres is open to the public for recreational activities such as hiking, camping,  
> bird-watching, and seasonal hunting.  
> Recent news items further falsely stated that the closure extends from the border 80-miles to the  
> north. This distance is far from accurate. On October 6, 2006 roughly 3500 acres, or 0.02% of the  
> Refuge, was closed to public access due to human safety concerns. At that time there was a marked  
> increase in violence along the border due to human and drug trafficking. The closed area extends  
> north from the international border roughly ¾ of a mile. A notice of the closure, including a map  
> has been on the Refuge website since 2006.  
> At this time there are no plans to reopen this southernmost 3/4-mile wide portion of the Refuge.  
> However, since 2006 the Refuge has experienced a significant decline in violent activity in the area  
> thanks to ongoing cooperation between the US Fish and Wildlife Service and US Customs and  
> Border Protection. The Refuge will reopen the area at such time that it is determined to be safe for  
> visitors.  
> Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge’s placement along the international border with Mexico  
> within the Altar Valley of southern Arizona provides a unique opportunity to protect remnants of a  
> fragile desert ecosystem and to provide refuge for some of the region’s most imperiled species of  
> plants and wildlife. Since its establishment, refuge staff have diligently worked to protect species  
> such as the masked bobwhite quail and the Sonoran pronghorn, as well as to offer meaningful  
> public recreation opportunities.
> 
> * * *
> 
> The mission of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is working with others to conserve, protect and  
> enhance fish, wildlife, plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people.  
> We are both a leader and trusted partner in fish and wildlife conservation, known for our scientific  
> excellence, stewardship of lands and natural resources, dedicated professionals and commitment to  
> public service. For more information on our work and the people who make it happen, visit  
> [www.fws.gov](http://www.fws.gov/).  
> [www.fws.gov/southwest/](http://www.fws.gov/southwest/)
> 
> [http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges…Fs/Closure.pdf](http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges/arizona/buenosaires/PDFs/Closure.pdf)
> 
> The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service  
> has closed a portion of the Buenos  
> Aires National Wildlife Refuge  
> south of the Garcia Road to public  
> use, under authority found in 8  
> RM 13.5 and 50 CFR 25.21(e)  
> **effective October 3, 2006.** Garcia  
> Road runs east/west parallel to  
> the international boundary about  
> one mile north of the line. This  
> area is about 3500 acres in size.  
> Our concern for public safety is  
> paramount.  
> The situation in this zone has  
> reached a point where continued  
> public use of the area is not prudent.  
> The Buenos Aires National Wildlife  
> Refuge has been adversely affected  
> by border-related activities. The  
> international border with Mexico has  
> also become increasingly violent.  
> Assaults on law enforcement officers  
> and violence against migrants have  
> escalated. Violence on the Refuge  
> associated with smugglers and  
> border bandits has been welldocumented.  
> Many of these activities  
> are concentrated at, or near, the  
> border. The concentration of illegal  
> activity, surveillance and law  
> enforcement interdictions make  
> these zones dangerous.  
> Closure is in effect until further  
> notice.  
> Mitch Ellis  
> Buenos Aires NWR  
> Refuge Manager

typical faux news stunt. They stopped telling the news 2 years ago. Since then they’ve been a propaganda machine. The really sad part is a large portion of Americans buy into this shit. They take everything they hear as fact, when much of the time it is far from the truth.

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**Author:** ![DannyboyUpstate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dannyboyupstate/32/6313_2.png) [@DannyboyUpstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DannyboyUpstate)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/13 "2010-06-17T20:19:10Z")

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> [@Could you hold on to this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/could-you-hold-on-to-this/32769/5):
>
> typical faux news stunt. They stopped telling the news 2 years ago. Since then they’ve been a propaganda machine. The really sad part is a large portion of Americans buy into this shit. They take everything they hear as fact, when much of the time it is far from the truth.

TRUE STORY…

By the way didn’t we talk about posting this pseudo-news about 6 mos ago 99FRC?

EDIT: Scratch that… that was with DFDROCKS back a bit ago.

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**Author:** ![Akira](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/akira/32/6286_2.png) [@Akira](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Akira)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/14 "2010-06-17T21:37:09Z")

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Fox News is nothing but a bunch of conservative GOP loving scum. It’s sad that people like Glen Beck are actually allowed to walk the earth… piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/15 "2010-06-17T21:49:59Z")

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> [@Useless GIF](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/useless-gif/32780/6):
>
> Fox News is nothing but a bunch of conservative GOP loving scum. It’s sad that people like Glen Beck are actually allowed to walk the earth… piece of shit.

You may be the one trying to restrict speech. Just sayin. Thats scummy.

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**Author:** ![Akira](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/akira/32/6286_2.png) [@Akira](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Akira)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/16 "2010-06-17T21:52:32Z")

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I restrict nothing, but I’m sick of Fundi shit infesting this country. THEY’RE SCUMMY.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/17 "2010-06-17T21:59:49Z")

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Dont back pedal, you stated it was sad he was allowed to walk on earth, not just speak. Closet Socialist? We’re on other end of the world on this one man. Im out.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/18 "2010-06-17T22:00:13Z")

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> [@07/71/07: My house. (if you don't suck)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/07-71-07-my-house-if-you-dont-suck/32717/53):
>
> What does this guy think he’s an indian?

Best post in this thread.

Jammer, learn how to quote. Who are you, Slowmarro??

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/19 "2010-06-17T22:01:24Z")

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> [@Number of people that loved the 1993 mustang mach 3 concept - ONE ... so he built one](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/number-of-people-that-loved-the-1993-mustang-mach-3-concept-one-so-he-built-one/32740/23):
>
> Best post in this thread.
> 
> Jammer, learn how to quote. Who are you, Slowmarro??

Dammit, there you go, telling me how to speak… ;0

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**Author:** ![Akira](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/akira/32/6286_2.png) [@Akira](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Akira)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755/20 "2010-06-17T22:18:21Z")

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> [@car wash/detailing](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-wash-detailing/32747/31):
>
> Dont back pedal, you stated it was sad he was allowed to walk on earth, not just speak. Closet Socialist? We’re on other end of the world on this one man. Im out.

It’s true, Glen Beck shouldn’t be allowed to walk the Earth. I’m also not a closet Socialist, I openly support the idea. You have fun getting fed line after line of bullshit by Beck, I’ll look for the truth.

Also, I love how people are so against Obama and how he hasn’t magically fixed all the complete clusterfucks the Bush Administration caused in 8 years. Obama’s a man, not Jesus Christ. Next you’ll want him to walk and water and then turn it to wine. Let’s also not forget he’s dealing with a Congress and Senate that’s so far up their own asses and more interested in bickering with their opposition than fixing anything.

What it comes down to is, it used to be GOP that was corrupt. Well guess what? They still are! Only thing is, now the Democrats are the same way. What we really need is a revolt. Tear down and rebuild.

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