# Obama gives part of AZ to Mexico **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 17, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755 "2010-06-17T14:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 38
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> [@Cheating NYS when registering a vehicle. whats at stake?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheating-nys-when-registering-a-vehicle-whats-at-stake/32823/24): > > Eh… I see it differently. They were trying to escape the crown and found a country on the idea of being for the people and led by the people. Sounds a bit like (idealistic) Socialism to me. Democracy and Socialism run parallel on many themes and ideas, but unfortunately neither seem to work too well. The human factor always ruins it. That’s also a stretch. Democracy doesnt have themes or ideas outside of government by the people. US was founded on that and freedom for those same people. I dont remember many socialist ideals in the Constitution. I also think it’s crap that people use anything they can find to grant themselves more entitlement, in this case the Constitution. People need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions instead of finding reasons why they shouldnt have to. > [@TW: 90 mustang lx/gt](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-90-mustang-lx-gt/32817/6): > > founded for the elites / bourgeoisie by the elites / bourgeoisie. it was about rights for certain peoples, and making money. Honest question, do you mean that back in 1776 or now (you said 'was)? If you meant currently: I dont disagree that the elites founded the country, but how is it all about the rights for certain peoples making money? It took way too long, but all US citizens now have equal rights. Opportunities can never be equal but the progressives have done their best at that part too. 🙂 --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-gives-part-of-az-to-mexico/252755)._