# Obama mocks "Joe the Plumber" **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-mocks-joe-the-plumber/200209 **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic **Created:** [October 17, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-mocks-joe-the-plumber/200209 "2008-10-17T09:45:27Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 24
### Author: ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420) #### Post date: [October 21, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-mocks-joe-the-plumber/200209/24 "2008-10-21T10:26:41Z")
> [@CRX\>stage 2 SRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crx-stage-2-srt4/37965/334): > > Watch the USS Liberty video man. I’m not a pessimist about government for no reason. I mean, Obama supporters who oppose Bush’s exercise of unauthorized powers should be aware of the dangers of having too much power in a central government. > > LBJ was a crook who had American’s executed by Israeli forces as part of a political stunt in 1967. Hitler had the Riechstag burned down to blame it on Communist terrorists and executed a retarded boy who was known to be a patsy. Google the Gulf of Tonkin, it was a complete lie broadcast on American TV to get the population behind the Vietnam war. > > None of those 3 situations are theories, they are all confirmed historical facts. > > If anyone wants to show that a larger government with more power will reduce the occurrence of such abuses, I would love to see any time in history that has been true. Bigger government has always yielded more egregious abuses. As the case of the Soviet Union shows us, a collapse of such an empire is far more disastrous. Most of the AK47s and nuclear weapons that are scattered around the planet in the hands of unscrupulous individuals came from the collapse of the Soviet Union. > > Smaller governments that have less power are our only hope of survival. So, how the fuck has the Bush administration made our Government smaller? How is McStain going to make it smaller? Bush lied to us of why we went to war. He lied to us about a ton of stuff! Most of them listed above by Shaggy. The issue isn’t your examples, nor is it bigger Gov at this point. We have a financial crisis, not a big government crisis. We need to slow down on spending, and if you check your facts, the Rep’s are the ones that do this the best! The dumbest thing I heard McStain say is how he wants an across the board spending freeze, get real old man!!! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-mocks-joe-the-plumber/200209)._