# Obama Will Spend More on Welfare NEXT YEAR than Bush Spent on the Entire Iraq War **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981 "2009-09-24T12:49:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/1 "2009-09-24T12:49:49Z")
I encourage you to check this out, it’s a fascinating read. I had no idea that we spent so much on welfare and how rapidly it is increasing. Take a look and discuss: [http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/upload/SR\_67.pdf](http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/upload/SR_67.pdf) WARNING: it’s a big document and you will get hooked on reading it. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/2 "2009-09-24T12:56:18Z")
Well how much did the welfare policy change? Obv more is being spent now due the shitty economy but where is the current administration to blame for that? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/3 "2009-09-24T13:08:26Z")
do a little reading and most questions get answered… (and you’ll shit some bricks) to answer your question: > Welfare Spending Under President Obama > In his first two years in office, President Barack Obama will increase federal welfare spending by $263 billion. > After adjusting for inflation, this increase is two and a half times greater than any previous increase in federal welfare > spending in U.S. history. As a share of the economy, annual federal welfare spending will rise by roughly 1.2 percent > of GDP. > Chart 12 shows Obama’s proposed welfare spending levels for his first two years in office (FY 2009 and FY > 2010).25 All figures were taken from the President’s own budget documents. > As the chart shows, federal means-tested welfare spending in FY 2008 was $522.4 billion. In his first year in > office, Obama will increase annual federal means-tested welfare expenditures by $88.2 billion to a total of $610.6 > billion. This is not merely the largest single-year increase in federal welfare spending in U.S. history; it is twice as > large as any prior one-year increase, even after adjusting for inflation. > That is not all. In his FY 2010 budget, President Obama proposes raising federal annual welfare spending by an > additional $86 billion, above the record high FY 2009 levels. As a result, federal annual welfare spending will jump > by one-third over two years, from $522.4 billion in FY 2008 to $697 billion in FY 2010. By FY 2010, federal meanstested > welfare spending will be twice the average annual federal welfare spending under President Clinton after > adjusting for inflation. > When the $88.2 billion in new spending in FY 2009 is added to the $174.6 billion increase in FY 2010, the combined > two-year spending increase will equal around $263 billion. As Chart 13 shows, after adjusting for inflation, > this two-year hike in federal welfare spending is two and a half times greater than any other increase in U.S. history. > It is equivalent to an extra $3,400 in spending for each taxpaying household in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/4 "2009-09-24T13:13:03Z")
Does it say anywhere what specifically they are including as “welfare” in their analysis? I can’t seem to find it, and “welfare” is a generic term. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/5 "2009-09-24T13:14:41Z")
I have no idea what the paper is about, but I want to say this. I genuinely hate people that TAKE ADVANTAGE of the welfare system. If you truely deserve welfare, I am all for it. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/6 "2009-09-24T13:15:09Z")
Fry, see page 4. It’s defined as any Means-Tested Aid. I was hooked just a couple pages in and spent way too much time today reading this. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/7 "2009-09-24T13:15:27Z")
> Whereas Social Security and Medicare appear as two succinct line items in the federal budget1 and defense > spending appears on one line, federal welfare spending is spread through 13 government departments and agencies, > 17 budget functions, and 71 separate programs. Spending levels for many programs can be discovered only > by data mining the annual 1,300-page budget appendix produced by the Office of Management and Budget > (OMB).2 Means-tested welfare also includes billions of dollars in mandatory state government contributions to > federal welfare programs. This spending never appears in any federal budget document. Because of this _we can make the numbers do anything we want._ Italicized is my interpretation. I hate it when political propaganda masquerades as objective research. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/8 "2009-09-24T13:17:40Z")
You mean _The Government_ will spend more on [blah blah blah]… ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/9 "2009-09-24T13:23:53Z")
anything that comes from the heritage foundation is too slanted for my consideration ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/10 "2009-09-24T13:24:39Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > You mean _The Government_ will spend more on [blah blah blah]… No, it’s Obama’s crew specifically that put the record increases into the govt. spending. This is the first time I’ve legitimately been a little scared of govt. getting too big. I generally dislike the heritage foundation, but there is enough fact behind them this time. I don’t agree with the solution… but the problem is real. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/11 "2009-09-24T13:29:21Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Does it say anywhere what specifically they are including as “welfare” in their analysis? I can’t seem to find it, and “welfare” is a generic term. > [@Fry](#): > > Italicized is my interpretation. > > I hate it when political propaganda masquerades as objective research. Maybe im not understanding what youre asking but im pretty sure they CLEARLY describe what they are including at the bottom of page 5 to the bottom of page 6. > Step #5: Require able-bodied, non-elderly welfare recipients to work or to prepare for > work as a condition of receiving aid. BINGO! > Step #6: Strengthen marriage, especially in low-income communities. > In 2008, single parents with children received about $280 billion, or 40 percent of overall means-tested aid. BINGO! ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/12 "2009-09-24T13:35:01Z")
that’s the part I don’t like… I don’t think strengthening marriage is the solution… a title alone doesn’t help anything. It’s the semantics around the laws and aid that needs to be changed. How about a better idea: get government out of the marriage business altogether. Handle every single thing through contract law and let religious institutions marry whom they wish as a non-binding contract. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/13 "2009-09-24T13:37:49Z")
“Strengthen marriage.” :lol: What does that even mean? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/14 "2009-09-24T13:38:03Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > How about a better idea: get government out of the marriage business altogether. Handle every single thing through contract law and let religious institutions marry whom they wish as a non-binding contract. this ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/15 "2009-09-24T13:38:21Z")
I’m not surprised. I just put my 2 week notice in so I can live free without a job and be just as well off on welfare :tup: thank you Mr. Obama, thank you! :lol: No but really, that is a big increase. I think they need to direct funding else where, make poeple work for a change ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/16 "2009-09-24T13:39:57Z")
> [@MOBOOST4U](#): > > Maybe im not understanding what youre asking but im pretty sure they CLEARLY describe what they are including at the bottom of page 5 to the bottom of page 6. Oh, OK. Could you copy and paste the list of items they are comparing from FY2008 to FY2009 and FY2010? ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/17 "2009-09-24T13:42:06Z")
Although its a lot easier said than done, it states right there 40% of the distributed welfare goes to single mothers… I guess im not saying strengthen marriage but rather stop letting these crack mammas and daddys spit out 50 little Cletus and Jaquans that are gonna be supported by my tax dollars. Sounds a little like profiling yes, but the more motivated of the types of people I just mentioned were the same shit heads that voted for this douche and now theyre cashing in. Not the most descriptive point, I know but this topic has been addressed 10000 times and I dont wanna shit up this thread. Im just soooo f-in sick of people who milk the system and in turn produce more kids who will more likely than not do the same at a lower IQ level. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/18 "2009-09-24T13:44:54Z")
I also have a difficult time swallowing allegations without supporting data ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/19 "2009-09-24T13:50:08Z")
MOBOOST4U: see the chart on page 9. Medical aid is the largest cost by a LOT. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/20 "2009-09-24T13:56:07Z")
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