# Obama Will Spend More on Welfare NEXT YEAR than Bush Spent on the Entire Iraq War **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981 "2009-09-24T12:49:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/41 "2009-09-26T13:00:39Z")
> [@slow84ta](#): > > :word: I would never expect hand outs. Its my responsability to takecare of myself and my family. Thats why I have savings and/or insurance so if something did happen, we’d be covered. I was just messing around of course. A sign of responsibility, somthing lacking these days on all fronts. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/42 "2009-09-26T13:03:10Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > It is just as much a fault of bad parenting as bad education. Yes, our education system is HORRIBLE, but parents should not have the mentality of sending their kids off to school as daycare and thinking they will learn everything they need to know there. Education should not stop when school is out. Amen. Working at a Buffalo school I can tell you that there are parents out there that should be placed in jail for the shit they put their kids through. ---
**Author:** ![blk99z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@blk99z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk99z28)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981/43 "2009-09-26T23:31:11Z")
> [@Storamin](#): > > I volunteer as a VITA tax preparer. > > You wouldn’t believe the attitudes some of the people that I did a free tax return for had. Even if they didn’t work, they would get some fully refundable credits back (CTC, EITC), and end up receiving a full refund of taxes paid during the year, and receiving some credits from the IRS. Then they would often get angry at me because they didn’t think that their refund was high enough. #1, I just did your tax return for free. #2, you got a refund for all taxes claimed. #3, they IRS just gave you extra money. What more do you want? > > Now the more serious issue is this. A lot of those people deserved all that money that came back to them, but does that really matter if they deserved it or not? It’s easy to denounce these people as bums, or deserving of where they ended up in life, but you need to assess the cold hard facts. A lot of these people never ‘succeeded’ because America failed them and did not provide adequate schooling, etc. > > It’s easy to attack the poor and say that they live in the bed they make, but a lot of people never really had a chance anyways. Although I agree with your thought’s 100% we must stop giving them incentaves to not take any initiative and pay them more to bring more people into this world that will travel their identical path regardless of who’s fault it is. Instead of giving them more $ to pop out kid after kid, how about we give them that same incentave to get steralized. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-the-entire-iraq-war/73981.md?page=2)