# Obama worries Liberals

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**Created:** [December 8, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380 "2008-12-08T09:42:41Z")
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### Author: ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/1 "2008-12-08T09:42:41Z")

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[http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081208/pl\_politico/16292](http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081208/pl_politico/16292)

I didn’t think we were going to see some kind of radical change and these are signs that we aren’t really going to get some kind of change… I didn’t really see all of that possible in todays geo-politcal climate. I mean, I’m don’t have a PhD in world politics but I read alot of world news on a daily basis and have for a few years now.

After reading the article what do you think? Are we in for more of the same and a continuation of policies fostered by the Bush administration and Neo Cons or is there really hope for some kind of radical change, whatever that means?

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/2 "2008-12-08T09:58:03Z")

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Radical changes? Naw. He’ll be a trim-tab, not a rudder.

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### Author: ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/3 "2008-12-08T09:59:36Z")

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He is going to try and undo the damage done when Bush accidentally the economy. The whole thing.

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/4 "2008-12-08T10:02:33Z")

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Early on he did put together a list of everything Bush did via executive order, aka things he can axe by himself immediately…

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### Author: ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/5 "2008-12-08T10:04:09Z")

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only time will tell. I’m sure he now has more information than he did as a sentaor which is probably influancing his policies. Not everything is black and white (tee hee)

one thing is for sure, he’d better make good on the promises he made or he’s going to have just as hard of a time with the media that bush had

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/6 "2008-12-08T10:37:43Z")

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So deep down even Obama knows the far left is wrong? 🙂

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### Author: ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/7 "2008-12-08T12:31:36Z")

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> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> only time will tell. I’m sure he now has more information than he did as a sentaor which is probably influancing his policies. Not everything is black and white (tee hee)
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> one thing is for sure, he’d better make good on the promises he made or he’s going to have just as hard of a time with the media that bush had

This is the way I see it, especially after receiving his first CIA/NSA briefings. That shit must be sobering.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/8 "2008-12-08T12:40:22Z")

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^Yeah, I mentioned that in another thread and got attacked. Big surprise.  
Once they show you what is really going on, things change.

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/9 "2008-12-08T13:10:31Z")

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Hey I would be the first to rant if he doesn’t try to follow through on the things he promised.

But he’s not even in the White House yet. I have never seen or heard of any President outside Lincoln who got more coverage of their pre-inauguration administration than Obama.

At least give him a chance to screw up. :lol:

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### Author: ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/10 "2008-12-08T13:11:49Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> So deep down even Obama knows the far left is wrong? 🙂

Far left and far right are usually wrong, the two are just needed to balance each other out I guess. For every hippie anti-war liberal, there’s a greedy asshole conservative trying to cash in on apache helicopter sales.

Anyone able to find a full list of the 300+ “Bush doctrines” things Obama plans to undo right away?

And yeah, god forbid he tries to get the ball rolling before he’s in office. What a terribly irresponsible thing to do. What I don’t get is why conservatives keep saying “he better keep good on his promises.” If you agree with his promises why didn’t you vote for him?

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/11 "2008-12-08T13:21:28Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> So deep down even Obama knows the far left is wrong? 🙂

more like-

On the outside, even Obama pretends that his liberal “agenda” is right

That is what got him elected, isn’t it?

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### Author: ![Drexial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Drexial](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Drexial)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/12 "2008-12-08T14:36:57Z")

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I like how before he got in the conservatives gripe was that he was going to chose a all leftest cabinet. Now that he has some people that will balance out his ideas he is a traitor. I’m glad he chose some from the right to find a middle ground. I didn’t want most of the things he preached done right away. It would have been catastrophic for a complete change like that over night. That is if everyone wanted to maintain this level of comfortable living that’s fleeting fast.

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### Author: ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/13 "2008-12-08T14:41:39Z")

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They want him to answer simple questions first in the media:  
[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/01/campbell.brown.clinton/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/01/campbell.brown.clinton/index.html)

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### Author: ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/14 "2008-12-08T18:45:42Z")

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WOW she tore him a new asshole

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### Author: ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/15 "2008-12-08T19:36:05Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> WOW she tore him a new asshole

It’s not about what she said. It’s about the fact that Obama didn’t answer the question about him appointing someone for office that not that long ago he said she was going to be terrible at.

He treated the question as a joke, and I’m sure that foreign affairs isn’t a simple matter.

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/16 "2008-12-08T19:49:15Z")

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:lol: at the media suddenly wanting to ask him real questions. After the free ride he got all election no wonder he was surprised and dismissive of an attack question.

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### Author: ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/17 "2008-12-08T20:14:13Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> :lol: at the media suddenly wanting to ask him real questions. After the free ride he got all election no wonder he was surprised and dismissive of an attack question.

:word:

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### Author: ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/18 "2008-12-08T21:22:43Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> He is going to try and undo the damage done when Bush accidentally the economy. The whole thing.

Oh you mean the economy that was going strong through a 5+year war? Which untill recently had a lower unemployment rate than under Clinton?

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/19 "2008-12-08T21:47:56Z")

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Yeah, bubbles tend to burst…

I hope he does better than what so many seem to be expecting.

Anyways, I’ve been listening to Obama’s book (the audacity of hope) while I workout lately. Anyone that cared to catch a glimpse of his thoughts would not be surprised that he is building a well rounded cabinet. The dude’s not about “my way or the highway”, he’s about “seek first to understand then to be understood.” He always emphasizes understanding both sides of any issue. Given that spirit of moderation and understanding, I think anyone expecting or afraid of a sharp left turn is going to be sorely disappointed. Change? Yes. Scary radical change? Probably and hopefully not so much.

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### Author: ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obama-worries-liberals/59380/20 "2008-12-09T00:15:53Z")

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> [@JEG](#):
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> Oh you mean the economy that was going strong through a 5+year war? Which untill recently had a lower unemployment rate than under Clinton?

…

So you really think Clinton was a bad president?

For real?

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