# Obamacares Fate, Votes in Today

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**Created:** [June 28, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228 "2012-06-28T07:15:07Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228/155 "2012-07-09T13:22:36Z")

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> [@Happy bday Beautyofweightloss!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-bday-beautyofweightloss/50031/26):
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> It’s been proven that more money in a pay check does not increase morale, work ethic, or appreciation of the job nearly as much as a simple pat on the back from higher ups, benefits, or even holiday parties.
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> Also, with holiday bonuses it makes them become expected year after year, so If the company can’t afford it one year (or won’t), the employees won’t be very disappointed.
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> Getting something unexpected does not enhance morale to the poin where it’ll overcome the decrease in morale from not gettin something you expect. If that makes sense.

I would love to see reports on that proof. All i know is what I see myself.

I understand what your saying, and can see it that way too. You cant please everyone, and I see the “expectation” for the bonus. BUT the root of a bonus is the pat on the back for doing your job well enough to out to expecationsion from the owners, who aparantly are nice enough to dig into their now swolen pockets (from your hard work) and give some back to you.

Therefor if no bonus will be offered, damn well better show good proof and figures supporting the inability to provide the bonus… NOT brag about the better than projected profits like they did at the party!

> [@Neon Driver Charged - You know him! With Pic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/249):
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> Unions are no different and no better than corporations. Look at the PEF contract vote last year. The Governor said if you don’t accept this contract, we’re going to layoff 3,500 of your “brothers.” So what did PEF members do? They voted it down, of course. Granted, the second time around they approved it, but that was only after some serious ground work that ultimately cost the union bigs their jobs. A union mindset is all about preserving power and growing their dues-paying ranks, regardless of the impact it has on the rest of the population. I can tell you from experience they approach things the same exact way as a private sector business.

THIS.

People were let go here, that were just hired on under PEF when that went down. Some went from steady many years of empolyment under a contractor for the state, to “yehhhhaaaa I am now a state worker! woot!!!” to, unemployment line.

Or better yet work for a union for 30 years, then get sued by them to give up your pention becasue the retirement choice you made was to open your own small business, totally unrelated to what your union job was, becasue they found a far fetched way to call it “competition”. Just to weasle out of a pention.

Bottom line is if you work for someone, your ass is allways on the line one way or another.

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