# Obamacares Fate, Votes in Today **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 28, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228 "2012-06-28T07:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 239
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228/239 "2012-07-20T07:32:52Z")
> [@who else saw this coming?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-else-saw-this-coming/50209/7): > > try to get seen at ellis hospital er on a saturday night after midnight…theres so many drunks and non law abiding citizens in there you literally have a couple hour wait for the ER…when everyone gets insurance throug gov’t theyll ALL be going it will be impossible. THIS, big time. I got airlifted to albany med and laid on a back board for hours waiting to be seen, with internal bleeding, broken bones and who knew what else at the time… while my wife and family watched people with upset tummys come in by the dozens to get sent home ahead of me with a bill. I sat in local ER’s with broken bones, dislocated shit, steel in my eyes, compressed vertebrae, etc… my shits broken here people… while I sit and wait for hours watching screaming kids run around uncontrolled while their baby’s dady gets his stomach pumped from alcohol poisoning, and all the other “are you fucking kidding me” crap that comes in. Make it free for everyone, there is absolutely NO way that could LESSEN that nonsense… it can only get worse. > [@FS: 2005 Evolution, Evo VIII Yellow](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2005-evolution-evo-viii-yellow/50187/15): > > The major problem with the healthcare industry is that it’s a for profit industry. When dealing with human life, it should not be for profit. Wife works for a not for profit co. They won’t spend money on simple scheduling software because it costs too much they think up front, yet pay employees over time and on call time to fix mistakes, crazy money from the inefficiency of the process’s they use with paper and pencil, and bitch about the shitty process. Both for and not for profit have their ups and downs… there is no way around that I guess. > [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/801): > > While I want to agree with that, I can’t. We want the best care? We need the best doctors and nurses. With that, they needed the best education. With that, they needed to go to the best schools, with the best professors, and the cycle continues. > > Doctors and nurses didn’t get as far as they did for free, and we did not make the same sacrifices they did. They need to get paid for the field they do so well in. > > So in the same idea you have, does that mean construction for houses shouldn’t be for profit? Should clothing companies not get any profit? How about food companies? Like I said, student loans are way too easy to get, and the seats filled with those debit carriers are easily shuffled off to graduation across the country. The only way to get better students into better schools, to produce better employees is to make it HARDED to get a school loan, make the testing and school process more of a challenge again (schools get paid wither or not people pass or fail) then hire and compensate those good employees properly. The flakes in shitty jobs and sitting at a computer doing an online degree over gov assistance while drinking a beer or smoking a joint will have to get off their ass and put a ton more work in to get the degree and job they are after. RAISING THE SOCIAL ETHIC of people is the key to scuccess here. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228)._