# Obamacares Fate, Votes in Today

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**Created:** [June 28, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228 "2012-06-28T07:15:07Z")
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### Author: ![JoeD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/77aa72/32.png) [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2012, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228/39 "2012-06-29T09:46:37Z")

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> [@Mark's SRT re-do -- no traction at all slight\_smile page 5](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marks-srt-re-do-no-traction-at-all-page-5/49901/51):
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> Literally your best post I’ve seen on Shift.
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> Red Cross is also funded mostly by donations and volunteer work. It’s not the government is forcing people to pay for that care.
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> I don’t get how people don’t see the big issue here in that we are being FORCED to get insurance or pay a hefty tax/fine. It’s not whether people should have insurance or not, or if “health care is a right”. Health care is about as much of a right as a driver’s license. It’s nice to have it, but some can’t afford it or simply don’t want it.

OK then FEMA who pays for that? Your right but then I should not be required to carry car insurance ether. Since it is only nice to have. If you do not provide health care sickness and disease will rum rampent. Look at the middle ages black plague or guy breaks leg they cut it off.  
I have no problem paying taxes or quality government services.  
Example over pricing by health providers.  
I was in the military and on leave got sick and went to the hospital. Got the bill of $2200 because they new I had insurance. Well what they didn’t know is tricare an insurance for military funded by the government. I submitted my bill to tricare and they responded to the hospital with you get $990 for that work. Nice try hospital. So if your insurance rates keep going up and up you know why.

This is factual information and happens all the time. Tricare pays what they deem as a proper price.

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