# Obamacares Fate, Votes in Today **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 28, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228 "2012-06-28T07:15:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 77
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228/77 "2012-07-01T10:54:40Z")
> [@FS: (Autotrader Post) 1995 M3 $3200- NOT MINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-autotrader-post-1995-m3-3200-not-mine/50036/5): > > Innocent? They havn’t committed a crime…outsourcing to china because labor, materials, profits, land, investments, salaries, utilities, and more are all taxed to be he heavens here is not a crime its called good business. Using tax professionals to optimise their refunds for more profits is good business and they would be stupid not to do it. Bribing is a crime. Nobody is talking about outsourcing here but you. Double dipping corporations that seem to enjoy American market and American taxpayer money after lobbying the shit of corrupt politicians or forcing them to side with the company in their policies after being a campaign donor is bullshit. Business only has to make money? How do you explain salary raises then? How do you explain a multi million dollar standard severance package to failed CEO’s that get fired by the company? So much for being performance based. I’m sure stock holders would rather see dividends than that. > [@silverandslow1"](#): > > fixed You want to talk in stupid absolutes? Explain Global Foundries. Almost nobody makes chips or starts fabs in United States anymore. You know why you ignore this point? Because it proves you wrong twice. Not only the quote above but also the fact that big business dips into tax payer money. Big business collecting tax payer money and influencing politics to come out on top financially are just as big pieces of shit as the people who take advantage of government program. Everybody wants to put in a little and get a lot. Funny you’re essentially supporting the same thing you’re against without realizing it Freeloaders on a government tax revenue ride… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamacares-fate-votes-in-today/264228)._