# Obama's Birth Certificate **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 13, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375 "2008-10-13T16:25:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/181 "2008-12-10T09:17:52Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Sorry, you don’t get to end threads. > Next time I get pulled over and the cop asks me for ID I will tell him to check my website.:smash2: > Obama’s school records show he became a citizen of Indonesia. Sorry, can’t be President Barry. > He also lied about having an alias. > Do you care about rules? > Just keep your head in the sand Stroked. So you ignore good old fashion American Documentation for the school documents in Indonesia? Talk about grasping at straws. Lied about his alias? You mean being called Barry instead of Obama? I know a ton of people who called themselves somthing else because thier first name wasn’t “normal”. You keep saying we’re the ignorant ones and that we’re ignoring information. But you’re ignoring everything legitimate that has been presented. Every government agency and most of America says you are wrong. Deal with it…and… /Thread ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/182 "2008-12-10T09:20:29Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > No just trying to get the little pinheads to open their eyes rather than shy away from possible problems. It is a good life lesson for you kiddies.👶 So who’s the little pinheads? Both national parties? The Supreme Court? (Well, ya got me there, with 5/9 of it anyway) The entire worldwide media? If there was a story, it would have been long outed. Look at who presents these arguments vs. who rebuts them. It’s the exact same sides that argued for Loose Change. Conspiracy theory retards vs. everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/183 "2008-12-10T09:20:51Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > If he gave up his citizenship to gain Indonesian citizenship it disqualifies him for the Presidency. Oh and as long as he doesn’t vote in an election in Indonesia it doesn’t count. Because that is what disqualifies your citizenship. And I do believe he was a bit young so… /Thread ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/184 "2008-12-10T09:26:25Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > If he gave up his citizenship to gain Indonesian citizenship it disqualifies him for the Presidency. You are aware that you can posses dual citizenship? And I also hop you know that you cannot be stripped of your US citizenship if you’re a naturally born US citizen unless you show INTENT to renounce your US citizenship. If you’re a child and your parents change your citizenship for you it does not remove your US citizenship. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/185 "2008-12-10T10:00:06Z")
Here’s all that the constitution says about it: > [@US Constitution](#): > > No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. It doesn’t define “natural born” and it doesn’t say anything about not being eligible due to dual citizenship? ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/186 "2008-12-10T10:04:52Z")
![http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/tin-foil-hat.jpg](http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/tin-foil-hat.jpg) Give it up, you lost and are now acting like a 5 year old ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/187 "2008-12-10T10:25:16Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Here’s all that the constitution says about it: > > It doesn’t define “natural born” and it doesn’t say anything about not being eligible due to dual citizenship? I believe it’s the 14th amendment ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/188 "2008-12-10T10:28:15Z")
> ``` > Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. > > ``` > ``` > Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State. > > ``` > ``` > Section 3. No one shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. > > ``` > ``` > Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. > > ``` > ``` > Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. > > ``` gay needing to have 5 characters to post ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/189 "2008-12-10T11:09:26Z")
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**Author:** ![ericvw7989](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ericvw7989/32/5070_2.png) [@ericvw7989](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ericvw7989)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/190 "2008-12-10T11:09:58Z")
> [@deebo](#): > > [IMG][http://www.funnyanimatedgifs.net/515/samuel-l-jackson-read-the-mutha-fucking-post-/](http://www.funnyanimatedgifs.net/515/samuel-l-jackson-read-the-mutha-fucking-post-/)" target=“\_blank”\>\“FUNNY\FUNNY ANIMATED GIFS - [FunnyAnimatedGifs.net](http://FunnyAnimatedGifs.net)[IMG] fail ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/191 "2008-12-10T11:17:11Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > I believe it’s the 14th amendment Naw, that contains the citizenship clause but doesn’t define natural born. Bottom line is that the constitution is vague regarding who can be president. Even if you could prove that Obama was born in Africa you still would not have proven that he cannot be president, as he was born to an American citizen. Currently the state department considers a child born abroad to an American citizen a citizen at birth. All I’m getting at is that it is such a gray area you would still have an uphill battle to determine that he is ineligible to be president even if you could prove that he was born in Kenya. There’s a mountain of evidence that he was born in the US to a US citizen. There is no conclusive law that says that he would be ineligible if he were born in Kenya. People chasing this are attention whoring retards. Here’s the citizenship clause as per the 14th ammendment. > _All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws._ ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/192 "2008-12-10T11:34:48Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > You are aware that you can posses dual citizenship? > > And I also hop you know that you cannot be stripped of your US citizenship if you’re a naturally born US citizen unless you show INTENT to renounce your US citizenship. If you’re a child and your parents change your citizenship for you it does not remove your US citizenship. According to Phillip Berg, who has way more credentials than anyone on NYSPEED, Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship at that time. Obama’s school records state he is Indonesian. Maybe you are right Joe but like I said, Phillip Berg has major credentials. If he is wrong and you are right I will give you a cookie.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/193 "2008-12-10T11:36:18Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Naw, that contains the citizenship clause but doesn’t define natural born. Bottom line is that the constitution is vague regarding who can be president. Even if you could prove that Obama was born in Africa you still would not have proven that he cannot be president, as he was born to an American citizen. Currently the state department considers a child born abroad to an American citizen a citizen at birth. > > All I’m getting at is that it is such a gray area you would still have an uphill battle to determine that he is ineligible to be president even if you could prove that he was born in Kenya. There’s a mountain of evidence that he was born in the US to a US citizen. There is no conclusive law that says that he would be ineligible if he were born in Kenya. People chasing this are attention whoring retards. > > Here’s the citizenship clause as per the 14th ammendment. > [/i] His mother wasn’t at least 19 years old, which is required.(According to Berg.) Did anyone watch the video? All of this is covered. Like I said Berg may be full of shit but, I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/194 "2008-12-10T11:50:08Z")
Blue eyed devil, are you the only one bitching about this? who cares, its done and over with, we have someone that has been elected, the people that elected him knew that there was a chance of a forged document and still he got elected. whats the big fucking problem. if everyone stops posting trying to prove him wrong or that it doesnt mater this thread would probably disappear ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/195 "2008-12-10T11:54:38Z")
Blue Eyed Devil’s problem is that he is pretending to believe that we have elected someone who is constitutionally ineligible to be president. That is a problem, not a “so what.” However, there is a mountain of evidence that this is not the case, so he’s just acting like a piss drunk cock to get us all fired up over it. It’s kind of funny. He can even get me all puckery even though I know what he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/196 "2008-12-10T11:54:48Z")
I am questioning not bitching.🙂 So if you can get away with a crime it is ok? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/197 "2008-12-10T11:57:19Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Blue Eyed Devil’s problem is that he is pretending to believe that we have elected someone who is constitutionally ineligible to be president. That is a problem, not a “so what.” > > However, there is a mountain of evidence that this is the case, so he’s just acting like a piss drunk cock to get us all fired up over it. It’s kind of funny. He can even get me all puckery even though I know what he’s doing. Fixed.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/198 "2008-12-10T11:57:24Z")
> [@yeamabu](#): > > Blue eyed devil, are you the only one bitching about this? > > who cares, its done and over with, we have someone that has been elected, the people that elected him knew that there was a chance of a forged document and still he got elected. > > whats the big fucking problem. > > if everyone stops posting trying to prove him wrong or that it doesnt mater this thread would probably disappear There is too much evidence that his eligibility for presidency was void. Again, im not saying that this “evidence” is legit. But there are a lot of reports saying 1.)He was born to an 18 year old woman in Kenya 2.)He claimed Indonesian Citizenship which does not allow dual citizenship under their legislature. 3.)There is no known copy of his original BC 4.)Hawaii has a few known cases of BC forgery and a few more which seem a lot less legit. The point is NOBODY ON NYSPEED KNOWS and many investigators, lawyers, judges and jurys may never know either. Oldwheeldrifter much like myself is arguing THE POSSIBILITY that he is not eligible and that you are all fucking retarded for not being more open minded and deductive. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/199 "2008-12-10T12:06:38Z")
so wait…he’s a muslim? :loopie: ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375/200 "2008-12-10T12:29:19Z")
The homeless bum on the corner, Chicken Wing Louie, said he swore in on the koran. Far be it for me to argue against a mountain of evidence. :shrug: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-birth-certificate/56375.md?page=11)