# Obama's new chief of staff supports a draft?

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**Created:** [November 7, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763 "2008-11-07T08:16:56Z")
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### Author: ![fbrendan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fbrendan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fbrendan)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/41 "2008-11-07T08:56:04Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> Oh man. I gotta find it. There is a howard stern video clip of them going around NYC asking random people who are supporting Obama if they think his choice of Palin would be a good Vice president and other random questions about Baracks policies (which were really McCains) and people would say shit like: "Ya I definitly think that Obama’s choice for Palin was a good move and she really can handle her self to run the country if needed.

It was already posted on this forum. It’s in OT somewhere.

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### Author: ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/42 "2008-11-07T08:56:42Z")

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no, it is not like starship troopers.

In starship troopers they tried very very hard to make sure you didn’t get in the service unless you were absolutely dedicated to the idea of the whole over the individual.

What are you smoking?

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### Author: ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/43 "2008-11-07T08:58:09Z")

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> [@Penfold](#):
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> no, it is not like starship troopers.
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> In starship troopers they tried very very hard to make sure you didn’t get in the service unless you were absolutely dedicated to the idea of the whole over the individual.
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> What are you smoking?

it is what it will turn into

no smoke im sick as fuck

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### Author: ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)
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> [@ILC](#):
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> I agree with it. I think everyone should spend a term in the military

You would… 😉

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### Author: ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/45 "2008-11-07T09:09:21Z")

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take a look at this shit [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyD5zv7EdWA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyD5zv7EdWA)

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### Author: ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/46 "2008-11-07T09:10:52Z")

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Did anyone read the first post with the excerpts?

> Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. …

Sounds like a great plan to me.

And no, there is no way to hell anyone would try to send whiny hippies to Iraq, that would never ever happen.

So why would anyone be opposed to what is proposed above? seems perfectly reasonable to me… why send the national guard who is trained to fight to hurricane country to help out when a civilian organization could do it better and cheaper?

volunteer fire fighting, EMT/EMS would all fall under this, and most importantly free training. Isn’t that one thing that could really help some people who have zero education and don’t want one… on the job training on how to do something productive?

This is not a new idea, lots of countries have been using this method (but primarily for the Military and not Civilian organizations) Israel, Japan, Korea, France…

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/47 "2008-11-07T09:11:37Z")

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all I see in this thread is people pulling numbers out of their asses and arguing back and forth about which is less made up…

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### Author: ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/48 "2008-11-07T09:52:41Z")

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A lot of Republicans are really making themselves out to be scared elitest whiners after this election.

That was fairly close to how McCain ran his campain, (negatively), and it is why the Republican party is suffering - and why they will suffer for awhile. This is not the way to swing democrats and independents back your way. People are completely turned off by this crap. Especially the “Veiled Racism” crap by douchebags like Tom Baurle, Sandy Beach and Rush.

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### Author: ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/49 "2008-11-07T09:55:37Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> all I see in this thread is people pulling numbers out of their asses and arguing back and forth about which is less made up…

The American way?

“My friend Johnny told me that his mom was on the internet and got an e-mail that said that Obama is a terrorist. He has people in Iran and Iraq that paid for his school and leant him money for his huge house 10 years ago and the plan was to get him to be President in the future so that he could control the country! Johnny’s mom wouldn’t lie! You should go tell everyone you know as well as I sure don’t want a terrorist in the white house!”

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### Author: ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/50 "2008-11-07T10:00:55Z")

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> [@Clean Baldy](#):
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> The American way?
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> “My friend Johnny told me that his mom was on the internet and got an e-mail that said that Obama is a terrorist. He has people in Iran and Iraq that paid for his school and leant him money for his huge house 10 years ago and the plan was to get him to be President in the future so that he could control the country! Johnny’s mom wouldn’t lie! You should go tell everyone you know as well as I sure don’t want a terrorist in the white house!”

do you and AWDrifter go way back

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### Author: ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/51 "2008-11-07T10:03:06Z")

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> [@justa4door](#):
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> do you and AWDrifter go way back

I wasn’t saying that is what I believe. See the quotes of sarcasm? 🙂

🤣

I think it is ridiculous as well. Let’s all argue over conspiracy theories, false numbers and things we get in our e-mails. It all must be true!!! LOL

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### Author: ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
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i know it was sarcasm…

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#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/53 "2008-11-07T10:27:38Z")

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Why is it BlueFaggot fails to read that what the guy is talking about is Civil Service in this country. Prepping younger generations on how to handle crisis and have prepared society? I think it is a great idea and btw… Oama DID talk about this quite often in how he wanted to get the youth more involved with civil service stints and making them attractive to people to do

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### Author: ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/54 "2008-11-07T10:29:55Z")

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I would NEVER serve for this country in its pointless wars.

Now if we were invaded and the war was in our public streets, I’d be out there blasting away. There NO WAY IN HELL I’d ever get on a plane and go to someone elses home turf just to fight a pointless war. To be totally honest I wouldnt wanna fight in any war america is in, WE NEVER WIN. We havent won a war in a LONG LONG TIME.

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### Author: ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/55 "2008-11-07T10:51:15Z")

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> [@Just Karter](#):
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> I would NEVER serve for this country in its pointless wars.
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> Now if we were invaded and the war was in our public streets, I’d be out there blasting away. There NO WAY IN HELL I’d ever get on a plane and go to someone else’s home turf just to fight a pointless war. To be totally honest I wouldn’t wanna fight in any war America is in, WE NEVER WIN. We haven’t won a war in a LONG LONG TIME.

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You don’t need to worry about that. By your comments on here they won’t take you for not being to smart, and there is a weight limit I bet also!

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### Author: ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/56 "2008-11-07T10:52:01Z")

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> [@dubbin91](#):
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> .  
> You don’t need to worry about that. By your comments on here they won’t take you for not being to smart, and there is a weight limit I bet also!

Awesome. Even better.

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#### Post date: [November 7, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/obamas-new-chief-of-staff-supports-a-draft/57763/57 "2008-11-07T10:53:12Z")

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> [@Just Karter](#):
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> I would NEVER serve for this country in its pointless wars.
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> Now if we were invaded and the war was in our public streets, I’d be out there blasting away. There NO WAY IN HELL I’d ever get on a plane and go to someone elses home turf just to fight a pointless war. To be totally honest I wouldnt wanna fight in any war america is in, WE NEVER WIN. We havent won a war in a LONG LONG TIME.

Bahahhaha watching you try to go through basic training could be its own TV show.

And “we never win” is a lot different than “we havent won a war in a long time”.

God you are dumb.

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> where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we’re hit by a natural disaster.

How does this sound like a bad idea? It sounds more like Americorp than anything else. The problem with it, is that when people hear ‘draft’, they automatically assume it’s for a war.

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> [@Clean Baldy](#):
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> Sorry, I’ve played enough counterstrike to realize that even if you are the best player in the world and go 30 kills over everyone elses 10, you somehow always end up 30/1. That one guy that you didn’t see gets you

👏:rubicant::shoot:

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This is not referencing military service. More like Americorps, and I support it. It would do this country and its people a lot of good.

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