# Occupy Wallstreet **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 29, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647 "2011-09-29T12:57:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/61 "2011-10-04T09:10:31Z")
> [@DSM differences?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsm-differences/45653/41): > > I am a lobbyist (not for a union though), and that is (sort of) what we do. Thank you. Also, some food for thought I suppose. 1. You want businesses to get taxed on money it makes overseas. So you want them to be double taxed because I’m sure they’re paying taxes to countries where their products are sold and where they employ people. 2. A business’s main goal is simple, but some like to make it seem more complicated. That goal is to make money. That’s it. So if a company chooses to go to another country where the tax rate is lower in order to make more money, doesn’t that go with their goal? If I wanted to make as much money as possible, I wouldn’t want to do it in a state, or country, that taxes more than almost anyone else. It’s easy to look at things from a citizen’s point of view. Not so easy when you’re looking at it from a $1B+ profit a year business with thousands of employees (each one whom you have to pay taxes for and provide benefits to), all costs associated with the manufacturing and/or service, satisfying shareholders wants, AND still trying to make money. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/62 "2011-10-04T09:24:21Z")
So you bail out of a country that buys majority of your goods and allowed you to be a startup to begin with, lay everybody off and still yell “abuse, I’m a job creator!!” Yeah, overseas. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/63 "2011-10-04T09:27:38Z")
> [@FS: VZW casio GZ one type s](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-vzw-casio-gz-one-type-s/45686/6): > > So you bail out of a country that buys majority of your goods and allowed you to be a startup to begin with, lay everybody off and still yell “abuse, I’m a job creator!!” > > Yeah, overseas. Your responses to me seem to be pointed at other people… I didn’t mention anything about abuse because they’re a job creator… I simply said they’re going to go where they have the greatest ability to make profit, which is a company’s goal. You want these companies to continue on in America hiring American workers and paying American taxes, just because America has most of their clientele? Spend more money to make the same amount… Or spend less money… I think I’d go with the latter. You know, if I was a corporation. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/64 "2011-10-04T09:38:05Z")
Well your logic is sound and that is why its happening. However that simply fucks us and US. If nothing else we need to bring manufacturing back here. Hopefully Chinas bubble will bust and it won’t be that beneficial to manufacture there. Otherwise America will just become an empty bubble that will collapse on itself as it seems to be doing. Upstate, the figures you talked about almost sound like a recent tech innovation contract that was passed last week with state funding. You didnt happen to be a part of that did you? ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/65 "2011-10-04T09:46:30Z")
China will be going through the same stuff we are. Their working class is about to rise up against the exploitative nature of their corporations. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/66 "2011-10-04T09:48:01Z")
> [@This is what I want to build](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-what-i-want-to-build/45812/6): > > Well your logic is sound and that is why its happening. > > However that simply fucks us and US. If nothing else we need to bring manufacturing back here. > > Hopefully Chinas bubble will bust and it won’t be that beneficial to manufacture there. > > Otherwise America will just become an empty bubble that will collapse on itself as it seems to be doing. > > Upstate, the figures you talked about almost sound like a recent tech innovation contract that was passed last week with state funding. You didnt happen to be a part of that did you? If the government didn’t spend so much and believe in the outrageous taxes they bestow upon corporations, maybe the corporations would have more incentive to move back here and give more Americans jobs. Businesses won’t do it on their own, they need an actual reason to move all of their labor needs to America without straying away from their goal of making money. The only way I could foresee this happening is if the US government decides to tax corporations (all businesses really) competitively with the other countries. As Upstate said, it is a global economy and countries are competing against each other for these corporations, but the US seems to continue to think “we’re the US of fucking A, these companies will stick by us no matter how much we sodomize them with taxes.” The US needs to get its head out of its ass and realize the same things that their citizens and these companies realize, and that is if there are no real benefits for the company to be here to do all of it’s operations, then they will continue to do so in other countries. ---
**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/67 "2011-10-04T09:59:42Z")
> [@This is what I want to build](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-what-i-want-to-build/45812/6): > > Well your logic is sound and that is why its happening. > > However that simply fucks us and US. If nothing else we need to bring manufacturing back here. > > Hopefully Chinas bubble will bust and it won’t be that beneficial to manufacture there. > > Otherwise America will just become an empty bubble that will collapse on itself as it seems to be doing. > > Upstate, the figures you talked about almost sound like a recent tech innovation contract that was passed last week with state funding. You didnt happen to be a part of that did you? No, that one was above my pay grade. I’ve worked smaller deals for internet retailers, pharmaceutical companies and a traveling circus. Basic manufacturing jobs are not coming back to the US. We need to accept that and move on. Prevailing wage rates and unions have assured us of that. What NY is doing right now and investing in tech companies is a smart move and will prove to be the next wave of manufacturing. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/68 "2011-10-04T10:06:30Z")
> [@Everyone ready for warm weather?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/everyone-ready-for-warm-weather/45502/111): > > If the government didn’t spend so much and believe in the outrageous taxes they bestow upon corporations, maybe the corporations would have more incentive to move back here and give more Americans jobs. Businesses won’t do it on their own, they need an actual reason to move all of their labor needs to America without straying away from their goal of making money. The only way I could foresee this happening is if the US government decides to tax corporations (all businesses really) competitively with the other countries. > > As Upstate said, it is a global economy and countries are competing against each other for these corporations, but the US seems to continue to think “we’re the US of fucking A, these companies will stick by us no matter how much we sodomize them with taxes.” The US needs to get its head out of its ass and realize the same things that their citizens and these companies realize, and that is if there are no real benefits for the company to be here to do all of it’s operations, then they will continue to do so in other countries. If you think taxes are the only thing thats what’s keeping these companies away, I suggest you look deeper into the issue. Other countries have high taxes as well, work force is a huge aspect of it, along with lack of regulation, safety, pollution, ease of bribes etc. Upstate: we can get manufacturing jobs back, Kia/Hyundai build plants here, BMW build a plant for their X3, NY is building tech manufacturing such as Global Foundries in Malta etc. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/69 "2011-10-04T10:28:55Z")
The problem with the protesting is that these fucking people have too much time on their hands. Go fucking look for a job instead of collecting unemployment and all of the benefits. If they had a job, the protests wouldn’t be happening. I don’t even want to hear that there is no jobs available… How many mexican bums do you see in the u.s.? ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/70 "2011-10-04T10:51:35Z")
> [@My new toy...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-new-toy/45809/7): > > If you think taxes are the only thing thats what’s keeping these companies away, I suggest you look deeper into the issue. Other countries have high taxes as well, work force is a huge aspect of it, along with lack of regulation, safety, pollution, ease of bribes etc. > > Upstate: we can get manufacturing jobs back, Kia/Hyundai build plants here, BMW build a plant for their M3, NY is building tech manufacturing such as Global Foundries in Malta etc. BMW built a plant for their X3/X5/X6 models, no Ms. I have looked deeply into the issue, and taxes are the main concern for these companies. ![http://topforeignstocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/personal-corporate-tax-rates-by-country-oecd.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/d/dd59c7f37b245dfa13643afbeb53aa8b9d7489fe.png) The only one higher than US (combined) is Japan, but we’re among the lowest for families with only a single income. ![http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/CosseyOwns/Other%20pics/TaxRates.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/9/d99d19ed9450232d160c021b71402c2bf53319d3.jpeg) There’s a table showing the US compared to a few other countries randomly picked but about the same distance apart from each other on the graph so you can see about where they rank. Japan - 39.5% US - 39.2% UK - 28% Switzerland - 21.2% Ireland - 12.5% Switzerland is also prolly the cleanest country out of the five I listed, based on pollution, with the US most definitely one of the dirtiest. Ease of bribes you can’t even mentioned because it’s illegal activity and can not really be measured. Is that the Russian in you coming out? lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/71 "2011-10-04T10:55:10Z")
If you look above my ninja edit to make it X3 is before your post telling me that :tongue And by your own logic, why would they come back here even if the tax becomes competitive when it’s still cheaper to employ people there and not deal with regulations? Them being a for profit business they will go else where no matter the tax rate. Also, which countries do the companies go? It’s not just the ones that have cheapest tax, plenty of other variables involved. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/72 "2011-10-04T11:03:25Z")
dam look at the personal income tax rate of other countries compared to ours, and most on that list have healthcare. ---
**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/73 "2011-10-04T11:05:50Z")
Hmm, yes… numbers, politics, percentage, taxes… Yes, quite. ![http://www.ragemaker.net/images/Neutral/Rich%20Fu.png](http://www.ragemaker.net/images/Neutral/Rich%20Fu.png) ---
**Author:** ![DRock518](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drock518/32/6363_2.png) [@DRock518](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DRock518)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/74 "2011-10-04T13:24:05Z")
Liberals suck,conservatives rule, RedWGN’S black and thinks hes cool. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/75 "2011-10-04T14:44:45Z")
[ame][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1MOMKZ8BI[/ame]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1MOMKZ8BI%5B/ame%5D) ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/76 "2011-10-04T14:48:00Z")
Why Occupy Wallstreet? Because no job. ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/77 "2011-10-04T20:56:38Z")
> [@Hang Your Cross"](#): > > umm, no. people are protesting because they are tired of being exploited by this non-rewarding system. they are allowed to protest, and it has nothing to do with the type of economic system in place, it has to do with the type of government in place. > > not sure why HudsonFalcon is getting socialism confused with “communist” Russia; when that was actually led by a DICTATOR, and that wasn’t even a communist country to begin with. **This world has never seen a true communist country ever, and it never will.** > > Also, if you get rid of the people who are being exploited by this system, guess what happens then, all the middle-management types will now lose their job titles and status and be forced to work in the lower type jobs. A capitalistic society NEEDS to have more people at the bottom of the barrel being exploited for it to work. In capitalism, it wouldn’t make sense to have everyone rich or middle class, it just doesn’t work that way. > > the people that work the hardest, get exploited by this system and get paid the least. And these people are getting tired of not being able to live anymore. They are working 40+ hours a week and can barely afford to pay rent, eat food, and have transportation to and from work. It’s a shame that the right-wing media and super elites are calling the lower classes lazy, and deadbeats when in fact they are the ones who sacrifice so that they CEO of XX company can have his nice bonus, get a 3rd house, all while the worker can’t eat dinner on Monday nights. > > I personally work 60 hours a week now and for a lot less than I used to (thanks Federal Reserve, Corporate Banks, Wall St), I have no benefits, and it sucks. > > The reason for the decline is due to corporate greed, deregulation of banking and finance industries and the federal reserve doing what they please seeing that they aren’t a gov’t agency and are above and answer to no one. We bail out the rich and bankers. The first major ($100 B+) starting with the Keating 5, and we reward businesses and wall st, whether or not they are successful or failing. Is that capitalism right there? No, it’s not. > > [http://www.propublica.org/special/government-bailouts](http://www.propublica.org/special/government-bailouts) okay, im real sorry if you took my whole post and thought it had anything to do with what was going on this thread… but it didnt really… i mean … i didnt read anything i Just posted. Those are just the thoughts I have on a daily basis… nothign particular to the thread. HOWEVER you said some REAL WHACK FUCKING SHIT lol in that post of yours. Its all good tho, I’m not hear to argue with anyone. Just to make it clear tho, working hard and working smart are two different things and if all you’re doing is working hard mad hours a week. I’m sorry. Its capitalism dude… be smarter than trading hours for dollars. BUT don’t blame it “on the system” because you’re working hella hard and are broke as fuck. I’m broke as a sun of a bitch but I understand why and im not regreting anything. Not saying I plan to stay this way but I wouldnt live in any other country if I could. > [@I \<3 the internet, F the handouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-3-the-internet-f-the-handouts/45784/19): > > I love when people bring up rich paying more taxes. > > It’s their greed that makes them pay more because they make more and corporations are seeing record profits. > > Wanna pay less taxes? Make less money. > > Fine keep the rich tax the way it is, make it less for all I care and tax the poor but let then make more money. > > No poor person will complain if they are taxed $10k more a year if they are allowed to make $20k more a year. > > This is exactly what the rich are bitching about. They are seeing a very good 10+ years that allows them to make record profits but they don’t want to pay more. Dude, lol. No. > [@Wtb:cavalier rims and tires](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-cavalier-rims-and-tires/43823/18): > > from the Economist " In 2008, the top 1% paid 38% of all federal income taxes, and the top 5% paid 58%." > > I don’t want my taxes to increase any more than any other middle class citizen, but we aren’t going to regain our budget from taxing the wealthy. We need less Government and less Government spending. > > You making the rich out to be the bad guy is bullshit, you aren’t seeing the bigger picture. It’s not taxation that got us in to this mess, it’s spending Wow are you human? This is too good to be true, somebody ITT has comon sense. Its a BOT. > [@major drug bust in northtowns](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/major-drug-bust-in-northtowns/45797/10): > > They make that money only because they are allowed to make that money and thanks to lobbyists they put themselves into a very healthy position. > > 90% of people has a boss that tells them how much they make, for corporations the boss is the government. Imagine if you had your own personal lobbyist to go to your boss and negotiate a sweet employment deal. Wouldn’t that be nice. > > Of course they are paying more, how is that nor relevant? If you’re using %, which is the standard now for taxing everywhere, it’s simple math. More you make, more you pay. Are you seriously telling me that’s unfair? > > All that proves is that they are doing so extremely well that even without raising the tax, at the agreed % level their record earnings are bringing most tax income, while middle class is paid so poorly that the % rate for them brings in shit. Vlad, 90% of people suck ass and are retarded as hell. No one told them they HAVE to have a boss. Its america they can all work for themselves if they want to. BUT THEY DONT. So good for them, but its gay as fuck if they are gonna bitch about people doing it better. > [@major drug bust in northtowns](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/major-drug-bust-in-northtowns/45797/11): > > They do that all the time. It’s called being in a union. Yep, and those ‘unions’ are fucking up our country. Send them to communism camps on mars. > [@stretched tires...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stretched-tires/45810/15): > > The problem with the protesting is that these fucking people have too much time on their hands. Go fucking look for a job instead of collecting unemployment and all of the benefits. If they had a job, the protests wouldn’t be happening. > > I don’t even want to hear that there is no jobs available… How many mexican bums do you see in the u.s.? Exactly, fuck this protesting SHIT. Get the fuck to work you mother fucking \*\*\*\*\*\*\* ! ---
**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/78 "2011-10-04T22:11:58Z")
ugh…why do i keep opening this thread. btw…not everyone down there is unemployed, plenty of people go down there on the days off because they agree and there is way more then one reason why this is happening. please do yourself a favor and go actually do some research on it. ---
**Author:** ![TonyJ124](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tonyj124/32/6380_2.png) [@TonyJ124](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TonyJ124)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/79 "2011-10-05T11:56:03Z")
![http://i.imgur.com/ut0bx.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/ut0bx.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/80 "2011-10-05T12:14:07Z")
> [@Looking for opinions on a couple bikes](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-opinions-on-a-couple-bikes/45831/11): > > okay, im real sorry if you took my whole post and thought it had anything to do with what was going on this thread… but it didnt really… i mean … i didnt read anything i Just posted. > > Those are just the thoughts I have on a daily basis… nothign particular to the thread. > > HOWEVER you said some REAL WHACK FUCKING SHIT lol in that post of yours. Its all good tho, I’m not hear to argue with anyone. > > Just to make it clear tho, working hard and working smart are two different things and if all you’re doing is working hard mad hours a week. I’m sorry. Its capitalism dude… be smarter than trading hours for dollars. BUT don’t blame it “on the system” because you’re working hella hard and are broke as fuck. I’m broke as a sun of a bitch but I understand why and im not regreting anything. Not saying I plan to stay this way but I wouldnt live in any other country if I could. > > Dude, lol. No. > > Wow are you human? This is too good to be true, somebody ITT has comon sense. Its a BOT. > > Vlad, 90% of people suck ass and are retarded as hell. No one told them they HAVE to have a boss. Its america they can all work for themselves if they want to. > > BUT THEY DONT. > > So good for them, but its gay as fuck if they are gonna bitch about people doing it better. > > Yep, and those ‘unions’ are fucking up our country. Send them to communism camps on mars. > > Exactly, fuck this protesting SHIT. Get the fuck to work you mother fucking \*\*\*\*\*\*\* ! No, I said some real deal shit. The only part that’s whack about it is, is the fact that it’s true. There is something called the “cycle of poverty,” look into it. There are many people that can not get out of their situation, and it’s due to the system they were placed in. Let’s compare it to the caste system, because basically, that’s what it is. America ain’t some mutha fuckin apple pie that it’s made out to be. If you’re blind to this, I’m sorry. Our standard of living has gone down the tubes, our money and savings is being depleted due to inflation, companies are going overseas for cheap labor and the ability to exploit the natural resources and dump toxins in foreign countries. Corporations are now considered people, but without the repercussions of doing illegal activities. Bankers, and wall street is getting bailed out by billions of our tax dollars, and yet this so called “class warfare” is due to the poor. Meanwhile, this was all caused by the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913, the FIAT currency system set in place by Nixon, the deregulation of the financial sector by Reagan. FUCK THAT, blame the people who got us in this mess. It sure wasn’t the poor, lower-middle class or the public sector employes. It was the greedy fucking cocksmiths on Wall St. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647.md?page=5)