# Occupy Wallstreet

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 29, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647 "2011-09-29T12:57:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/121 "2011-10-10T07:15:13Z")

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wilkum 🙂 Peace out

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/122 "2011-10-10T07:45:27Z")

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> [@Leno comments about US top gear](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/leno-comments-about-us-top-gear/45936/7):
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> The daily show? Thats your news source? Thats as bad a quoting of Hannitys site.

Just because information/opinions are presented in a form of comedy you’re writing the _information_ off entirely?

I’m not sure if you watch any episodes but the “legit” news sources are more of a clusterfuck of misinformation, hippocratic views and mixed messages then a daily show.

I guess no review or opinion on Top Gear should ever count as valid either, since after all it’s a comedy show and the guys clearly don’t know what they are doing/talking about.

Critiquing something just by saying that it’s bad, without giving any actual facts as to why it’s bad, prove of it or constructive criticism is most useless piece you can possibly post in an argument.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/123 "2011-10-10T08:13:09Z")

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_![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311821_160886897336044_159818307442903_281451_1759218400_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311821_160886897336044_159818307442903_281451_1759218400_n.jpg)_

:rofl

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/124 "2011-10-10T20:22:50Z")

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> [@spring rates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-rates/45915/8):
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> Just because information/opinions are presented in a form of comedy you’re writing the _information_ off entirely?
> 
> I’m not sure if you watch any episodes but the “legit” news sources are more of a clusterfuck of misinformation, hippocratic views and mixed messages then a daily show.
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> I guess no review or opinion on Top Gear should ever count as valid either, since after all it’s a comedy show and the guys clearly don’t know what they are doing/talking about.
> 
> Critiquing something just by saying that it’s bad, without giving any actual facts as to why it’s bad, prove of it or constructive criticism is most useless piece you can possibly post in an argument.

What?

What legit news sources?

Where

Name one u think is legit?

Opinions should not be formed from news sources more often than not,when the topic is politics.

What was Steve Jobs great quote again? You cant connect the dots looking forward… you can only connect them looking backwords…

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see how all major news sources are full of inadequate and sometimes just reshaped information.

Either you get it or you don’t. Those that don’t , often complain. Sometimes its most fun to complain a group or mob, and misery likes company, just as much as love does.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/125 "2011-10-10T20:42:06Z")

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> [@spring rates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-rates/45915/8):
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> Just because information/opinions are presented in a form of comedy you’re writing the _information_ off entirely?
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> I’m not sure if you watch any episodes but **the “legit” news sources are more of a clusterfuck of misinformation, hippocratic views and mixed messages then a daily show.**
> 
> I guess no review or opinion on Top Gear should ever count as valid either, since after all it’s a comedy show and the guys clearly don’t know what they are doing/talking about.
> 
> Critiquing something just by saying that it’s bad, without giving any actual facts as to why it’s bad, prove of it or constructive criticism is most useless piece you can possibly post in an argument.

One reason you don’t see those on The Daily Show is because there is ONE person reporting the “news”.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/126 "2011-10-11T08:34:15Z")

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The Daily Show

:rofl

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/127 "2011-10-11T11:43:54Z")

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![http://i52.tinypic.com/2mead5s.jpg](http://i52.tinypic.com/2mead5s.jpg)

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/128 "2011-10-11T12:30:51Z")

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:rofl

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/129 "2011-10-11T19:01:04Z")

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> [@4:20](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-20/30408/284):
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> The Daily Show
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> :rofl

Would you rather just have me quote the content without citing it?

Or how about just critique without stating your own opinion presenting the opposite view.

You guys seem to be pretty good at that.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/130 "2011-10-11T22:12:59Z")

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> [@Vovchandr"](#):
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> Would you rather just have me quote the content without citing it?
> 
> Or how about just critique without stating your own opinion presenting the opposite view.
> 
> You guys seem to be pretty good at that.

It has nothing to do with opposing views.  
It has everything to do with you citing your only news source as a comedy show wrapped around political satire.

My new news source: political cartoons in the Gazette.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/131 "2011-10-12T00:02:32Z")

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> [@So my sister was fired...need some advice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-was-fired-need-some-advice/45968/2):
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> It has nothing to do with opposing views.  
> It has everything to do with you citing your only news source as a comedy show wrapped around political satire.
> 
> My new news source: political cartoons in the Gazette.

And a super liberal one at that

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/132 "2011-10-12T07:49:14Z")

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> [@So my sister was fired...need some advice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-was-fired-need-some-advice/45968/2):
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> It has nothing to do with opposing views.  
> It has everything to do with you citing your only news source as a comedy show wrapped around political satire.
> 
> My new news source: political cartoons in the Gazette.

Please explain to me why a political satires and even cartoons carry less weight than the propaganda and bias in other news sources.

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**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/133 "2011-10-12T13:00:33Z")

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> [@G8 1/4 mile track vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-1-4-mile-track-vid/45961/21):
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> Please explain to me why a political satires and even cartoons carry less weight than the propaganda and bias in other news sources.

Is that a serious question?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/134 "2011-10-12T15:24:49Z")

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> [@wtb 5speed swap 1993 civic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-5speed-swap-1993-civic/45925/2):
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> Is that a serious question?

Sure, humor me.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/135 "2011-10-12T22:59:25Z")

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Even Satire has an agenda … you do know that, so the source still matters.

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**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/136 "2011-10-13T02:11:16Z")

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Satire makes the liberal pill that much easier to swallow plus the uneducated pass what they hear from such sources as fact either to be trendy or because they’re too stupid to form their own opinion or both.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/137 "2011-10-13T02:12:04Z")

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> [@WTB: d16 intake manifold, p28 ecu 650cc injectors, manual trans.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-d16-intake-manifold-p28-ecu-650cc-injectors-manual-trans/45967/19):
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> Even Satire has an agenda … you do know that, so the source still matters.

Apparently some people are missing that point.

Political satires are often aimed at the common man by making fun of the government and it’s fails and downfalls. By existence it’s reminding you that we still live in a free democratic society.

While yes satires tend to stray Liberal that doesn’t stop them from criticizing parties and members that are seen as liberal.

Satires played an important role through out modern history. While single handedly they never had a direct impact, indirectly they helped make history what it is today. Ben Franklin is credited with the first American satire.

But yeah, it’s ridiculous to interpet the message so lets ignore it all together and go back to unbiased sources such as Fox. Bigots will do as they please with ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/138 "2011-10-13T05:34:16Z")

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> [@Research Project help](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/research-project-help/45957/6):
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> Satire makes the liberal pill that much easier to swallow plus the uneducated pass what they hear from such sources as fact either to be trendy or because they’re too stupid to form their own opinion or both.

the same can be said about faux news and sources like the heritage foundation.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/139 "2011-10-13T06:50:52Z")

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> [@Research Project help](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/research-project-help/45957/7):
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> Apparently some people are missing that point.
> 
> Political satires are often aimed at the common man by making fun of the government and it’s fails and downfalls. By existence it’s reminding you that we still live in a free democratic society.
> 
> While yes satires tend to stray Liberal that doesn’t stop them from criticizing parties and members that are seen as liberal.
> 
> Satires played an important role through out modern history. While single handedly they never had a direct impact, indirectly they helped make history what it is today. Ben Franklin is credited with the first American satire.
> 
> But yeah, it’s ridiculous to interpet the message so lets ignore it all together and go back to unbiased sources such as Fox. Bigots will do as they please with ignorance.

I would, and may later, argue each one of the sentences.

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**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/140 "2011-10-13T16:04:33Z")

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> [@Well the milkman didn't deliver, but I've been busy while waiting.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-the-milkman-didnt-deliver-but-ive-been-busy-while-waiting/45981/30):
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> the same can be said about faux news and sources like the heritage foundation.

Which is why people should educate themselves and form their own opinions rather than borrowing someone elses.

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