# Occupy Wallstreet

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**Created:** [September 29, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647 "2011-09-29T12:57:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/159 "2011-10-24T17:29:00Z")

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> [@So...herpes?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-herpes/46182/35):
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> I wouldn’t take a 20,000 dollar raise with a 75 percent tax rate because you don’t just get that raise. You either work more hours, or you have more responsibilities. Magic land is the only place you just randomly get a huge raise with no increase in time/responsibility so using that as an example to make your tax logic look good is irrelevant because its not based on any sort of real world possibility.
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> I have a sweet tax proposal, everyone gets a million dollars, with no inflation and no negative effects on the economy. That would be nice, but it isn’t possible just like your example and is therefor irrelevant.
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> Big business provides jobs. Jobs are good. Jobs provide at the very least income taxes, they allow people to buy, save, invest, which allows banks to loan ect. There are some shady dealings sure but there is no denying I’ve just listed one benefit of an evil corporation.
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> Name one benefit the welfare state brings to the table. The millions of people who are able to work, but don’t becuase they don’t want to, not only receive a check for doing nothing and providing nothing…they are put under no pressure to better themselves becuase everything is paid for them for free. They provide 0 benefit to society, or the economy.
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> I may be more willing to listen to conspiracy theories liberals have about corporations and how evil rich people need to pay more when they first focus on the group which provides nothing to economy exept detriment and gets the publics money, instead of people who do provide benefit and make their own profits.
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> Get a job.

Magic land? Welcome to corporate America.

The higher up you go, the less you do physically.

Look at the recent CEO’s who got laid off for not doing their job and driving companies into the ground and getting multi million dollar severance packages.

Look at any supervisor position who gets paid more than the workers he or she supervises but does typically nothing but boss people around for stupid shit to make themselves seem useful.

Besides it was simply an example, it’s not based on real world numbers :facepalm

> Big business provides jobs. Jobs are good. Jobs provide at the very least income taxes, they allow people to buy, save, invest, which allows banks to loan ect.  
> You big business is great when it provides most of those jobs overseas. :Idiots

> Get a job.  
> Who is that referring to? Really?

You know why charity/welfare still exists? Do you? It’s because there are plenty of people out there who make good money of running the programs, providing to them and laundring the money.

If nobody was making money off the thing or had an interest in it, it would be long gone.

If you remove welfare all it will do is raise the crime rates and cost of prisons everywhere as you will still be providing food and shelter to the people in jail, granted it may be a better option.

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