# Occupy Wallstreet **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 29, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647 "2011-09-29T12:57:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 177
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647/177 "2011-10-25T10:30:11Z")
Oh man I can have a field day with you. > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > Since when does it matter how much physical labor someone does? Supervisors make more because they not only have to bare responsibility of their actions but now they are responsible for all those underneath them. How much physical labor somebody does, always matters when talking about working hard. I’ve been on both sides and having more responsibility doesn’t make you “work harder”. A guy in a warehouse having to move 10,000 pounds of shit a night will work his ass off during the night while the supervisor won’t. Since when is “being responsible” work? > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > ``` > - severance packages from private corporations to ceo's are none of mine or your business. They are private for a reason. If you don't support the way they do business don't purchase their products, and don't invest in them. They are private not public somehow becuase government in general has gotten so big people think they have the right to tell anyone what to do. It's up to shareholders/board of directors to decide what goes on within a company not the general public. > > ``` They are public business because they are a public company as anybody can become a shareholder and it’s open market. If a company is going to waste money on contracts that don’t reward **hard work** from it’s CEO’s and punish **lazy and unsuccesfull CEO’s** I’ll want nothing to do with that company. I’m sure none of the shareholders agree with those contracts either, but clearly they have no voice in the matter, it’s up to the board. > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > Again, supervisors are there to supervise. They are supposed to boss you around thats their job. Instead of being butt hurt over pride how bout you just become a superviros so you can make more and can boss people around. Again, it’s an easy ass job. I’ve been there. > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > It’s not valid example if it isn’t based on real world numbers. You making up numbers to support an economic policy that are not realistic in anyway, nor is the scenario makes the argument irreevant. I think we should just give everyone a million dollars, cut the price of everthing in half and have no inflation while were at it. That would solve the problems with the economy but unfortunatly since it isn’t possible its also irrelevant. You are just something else aren’t you. Fine it’s not real world numbers, lets use some real world examples. You said you wouldn’t take a promotion that paid more because you have to work harder? Then you have no right to tell others to work harder or get a better job. You wouldn’t take a promotion if it came to you? You’d get paid more and you would be taxed more. **Just like in my example** :facepalm > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > The overseas jobs argument is ridiculous.Again, this is another example of how liberals think they have the right to tell anyone and anything how they should behave…A business owes you or I exactly nothing. They are in BUSINESS to do one thing, make money for themselves and their shareholders. It is not the responsibility of business to worry about how shipping jobs to countries with better margins effects the United States economy. Its the responsibility of the United States to make an economic climate such that businesses want to come here. Blame the government who is supposed to be looking out for you. Don’t blame the business who never claimed to be Another examples of how conservatives are ignorant. It is impossible for US to price match overseas jobs for the same labor. You aren’t going to have people working here to make $10 a day or kids making shoes and Tshirts in sweatshops all day for $5. Get the fuck out of here. > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > Welfare exists because it gets votes. End of story. I don’t remember last time I voted for welfare. Do you? Welfare get’s voted on by people in power who can’t seem to pass any other bill worth a shit that makes any financial sense. People in power vote for welfare because of lobbyists and direct other interests of people who make money off it and encourage the voting for it. **End of story.** > [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/83): > > I think welfare should be competley overhauled. It should have short limits for a lifetime unless you are actually disabled in some way. All those who are on welfare are drug tested randomly, they do some sort of labor to EARN their welfare money, they can only be on it for a year max for their whole lives, any crime convictions while on welfare makes you immediatly get removed. Once on welfare you can’t have kids until your cleared by CPS that you have the longterm means to care for children. Sure crime would surge initially but it would go down when people started working for a living. Partially agree. However you don’t understand what happens when people are removed from welfare. They aren’t just going to go on the street and die or “stay quiet” about it. People will do anything to survive in desperate times. You know what the easiest and popular job over seas that requires no education and pays very well? Criminal activity. This is why gangs are more predominant and mafia is more popular the poorer people get. A guy in wealth pays pretty good money by finding people with nothing else to lose. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/occupy-wallstreet/260647)._