# OFFICIAL '08-'09 BUFFALO SABRES SEASON THREAD **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 30, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733 "2008-09-30T13:23:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2221 "2009-03-03T11:17:50Z")
> [@Coldaccord](#): > > fuck. bench hetch or pommer and bring max up. gives max a chance, and gives one of those two the realization that they need to step up. Fuck. Lindy benched vanek in the playoffs a couple years back but he wont bench hecht or pominville now? wtf agreed ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2222 "2009-03-03T11:19:36Z")
i like ellis, i would send down hecht or pommer as a wake-up call like i said before sending down ellis. ellis battles hard in the corner like macarthur used to ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2223 "2009-03-03T11:20:02Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Effort usually doesn’t score goals. Peters could bust his ass 10x more than anyone else and he’s not gonna be a goal scorer. Exactly. Hell, Peters plays his heart out, but he shouldn’t have a spot on the team. Looking at the stat sheets there are easily 3 or 4 forwards who a good coach would have benched for Max, even if it’s just to get some trade interest and pick up someone else. IMHO Ruff has just been around too long. The players are inconsistent because they know exactly what they can and can’t get away with. They know who his favorites are. He has no fresh ideas and the same problems the Sabres had three years ago continue to plague them today. Take an honest look at the talent on that roster and tell me this is a team that should be sitting in 9th place. If you agree there is enough talent that they should be a playoff team then where do you place the blame? ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2224 "2009-03-03T11:40:32Z")
> [@Coldaccord](#): > > i would send down hecht or pommer as a wake-up call like i said before sending down ellis. ellis battles hard in the corner like macarthur used to Send down one way contract players for a semi washed up expendable player :roflpicard: Dont get me wrong, Ellis has been solid and a hard worker but please. I think you just mean scratch. No way Pommers or Hecht would clear waivers. Edit: Is Pominville’s contract still two ways until the end of the year? ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2225 "2009-03-03T11:56:37Z")
haha yeah my bad. ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2226 "2009-03-03T13:05:27Z")
i think you guys commenting on the “effort” are missing the point…if your half assing it around, your not going to get as many chances as someone who is busting their ass and getting into good situations. even if that guy doesn’t have as much skill, all it takes is a funny bounce and you know the rest… and when your having as much trouble scoring as we are recently, the effort is going to be what turns it around, why do you think so many coaches etc preach about “getting back to basics” during a slump. get the puck deep, pressure their defense, create turnovers , go to the net and just start shooting. sounds like the guy who’s giving me more effort is going to be who i’d want out in that situation ---
**Author:** ![kenmxz13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kenmxz13/32/5288_2.png) [@kenmxz13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kenmxz13)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2227 "2009-03-03T13:12:44Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Take an honest look at the talent on that roster and tell me this is a team that should be sitting in 9th place. If you agree there is enough talent that they should be a playoff team then where do you place the blame? Looking at this team’s talent, we are exactly where you’d expect, a borderline playoff team, especially with Vanek out the last month, and Miller being out our last few games. Without those two, we have almost no big time players, maybe roy and pominville, and our defense hasn’t been strong since we lost McKee and Campbell go. We’re undersized in a league that’s converting back to pre-lockout physical hockey. We had a few good years with Drury/Briere but we’ve given up too much talent and tried to replace it with AHL’ers ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2228 "2009-03-03T13:13:19Z")
> [@Adictd2b00st](#): > > i think you guys commenting on the “effort” are missing the point…if your half assing it around, your not going to get as many chances as someone who is busting their ass and getting into good situations. even if that guy doesn’t have as much skill, all it takes is a funny bounce and you know the rest… > > and when your having as much trouble scoring as we are recently, the effort is going to be what turns it around, why do you think so many coaches etc preach about “getting back to basics” during a slump. get the puck deep, pressure their defense, create turnovers , go to the net and just start shooting. sounds like the guy who’s giving me more effort is going to be who i’d want out in that situation Exactly the thing that is killing us on offense. The first 2 lines are trying to drag the puck through defenders and get cute in the offensive zone. This clearly is **not** working. Screen the goaltender and fire pucks at the net. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2229 "2009-03-03T13:30:53Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Exactly. Hell, Peters plays his heart out, but he shouldn’t have a spot on the team. Looking at the stat sheets there are easily 3 or 4 forwards who a good coach would have benched for Max, even if it’s just to get some trade interest and pick up someone else. > > IMHO Ruff has just been around too long. The players are inconsistent because they know exactly what they can and can’t get away with. They know who his favorites are. He has no fresh ideas and the same problems the Sabres had three years ago continue to plague them today. > > Take an honest look at the talent on that roster and tell me this is a team that should be sitting in 9th place. If you agree there is enough talent that they should be a playoff team then where do you place the blame? :word: Ruff has his favorites and its obvious. Kotalik has a lot of skill, but gets very little ice time. He should have benched Pomminville a while ago. All the Ruff humpers on here need to open their eyes. ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2230 "2009-03-03T13:35:11Z")
Ruff isn’t a bad coach, he just sometimes makes bad decisions. Pomminville needs a break. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2231 "2009-03-03T17:14:20Z")
Maybe they will move Ruff up to the Hockey dept and away from coaching… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2232 "2009-03-03T18:06:38Z")
I think Ruff’s problem is that he is a defense man. You can see how he plays a defensive game, not taking chances, always having the players go in on the boards to avoid a break away or odd-man rush if a mistake is made. He plays WAY too defensively! As soon as we are 3 goals ahead you can see his attitude changes and the entire team starts to take the chances that help them score even more. He doesn’t yell at them to be conservative, which allow goals to be made! If you watch Pittsburgh, you can see an entirely offensive type of play compared to us, allowing their main power players to get scoring chances and make plays a lot better than us. We go around in circles in the enemy end, with two players behind the net getting a puck and when it gets put out front there is nobody there! Where are they, you ask? They’re being defensive sitting further back towards the blue line in case a puck ends up in the hands of the other team, so that they avoid an odd-man rush and/or opportunity from the other team. This is why we don’t score much… we have a defense man as a coach. ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2233 "2009-03-03T18:40:18Z")
No good news tonight, canes,florida, and philly win with pittsburgh currently beating tampa ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2234 "2009-03-03T19:41:21Z")
> [@Clean Baldy](#): > > I think Ruff’s problem is that he is a defense man. You can see how he plays a defensive game, not taking chances, always having the players go in on the boards to avoid a break away or odd-man rush if a mistake is made. He plays WAY too defensively! > > _snip_ > > This is why we don’t score much… we have a defense man as a coach. Totally Disagree with the comment that lindy is defensive-minded The one end of the ice where we have been so terrible has been in our own end and not being able to clear the zone. The problem in the offensive zone is not pulling the trigger when a shot is open. Only lately has it been an issue with getting someone in front. TURNOVERS TURNOVERS TURNOVERS Way too much time in box If you could eliminate the last two, we would be in 5th place or better without a doubt. ---
**Author:** ![LayzieJR4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layziejr4/32/5096_2.png) [@LayzieJR4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LayzieJR4)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2235 "2009-03-04T01:52:26Z")
> [@kenmxz13](#): > > Looking at this team’s talent, we are exactly where you’d expect, a borderline playoff team, especially with Vanek out the last month, and Miller being out our last few games. Without those two, we have almost no big time players, maybe roy and pominville, and our defense hasn’t been strong since we lost McKee and Campbell go. > > We’re undersized in a league that’s converting back to pre-lockout physical hockey. We had a few good years with Drury/Briere but we’ve given up too much talent and tried to replace it with AHL’ers x1000000000000000000000000 > Afinogenov registered 134 points and a plus-25 rating in 133 games from 2005 to 2007. **In 90 games since then, the winger has collected only 40 points and a dreadful minus-30 rating."** And you think Lindy should go for not playing him? Really? ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2236 "2009-03-04T09:58:20Z")
> [@sabres.com](#): > > The Sabres will welcome back their leading goal scorer for Wednesday night’s home game against a Montreal Canadiens team that is searching for a season high-tying fifth straight win. Wooo ---
**Author:** ![Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jared/32/4976_2.png) [@Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jared)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2237 "2009-03-04T12:16:14Z")
Buffalo Sabres GM Darcy Regier announced today the Sabres have signed forward [Tim Connolly](http://sabres.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8467878) to a two-year contract extension. :picard: ---
**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2238 "2009-03-04T12:19:23Z")
> [@Jared](#): > > Buffalo Sabres GM Darcy Regier announced today the Sabres have signed forward [Tim Connolly](http://sabres.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8467878) to a two-year contract extension. > :picard: ummm why picard? well worth it if timmy stays healthy ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2239 "2009-03-04T12:23:25Z")
Must win tonight, although so were the last 3 games ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/55733/2240 "2009-03-04T16:43:24Z")
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