# Official 08-09 Penguins Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 13, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-penguins-thread/197996 "2008-06-13T11:17:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 467
**Author:** ![Bravada\_442](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bravada_442/32/5982_2.png) [@Bravada\_442](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bravada_442)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-penguins-thread/197996/467 "2009-02-18T16:52:15Z")
> [@Get your tissues and lotion ready](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/get-your-tissues-and-lotion-ready/39648/2): > > im not that big on whitney anymore.seems to me like every game hes stumbling over his feet and givin the oppisition a odd man break.and montreal is looking for an offensive defenceman He is still just back from a debilitating injury that had been plaguing him for 2+ years. That is tough to deal with. No training camp, no pre-season, just thrown straight into the fire and expected to perform. That being said, I’ve never been a huge Ryan Whitney fan. I debated openly the idea that trading Noah Welch 2 years back for Gary Roberts was iffy because I thought Welch might project to be a better D-Man. While that may not be the case, I think they do have 1 offensive D-Man that will be better than Whitney in Letang and another one that, based on his play, will project to be better than him as well in Goligoski. He’s just always been way too soft and slow for me. If you’re going to be slow, bust some skulls like Orpik. Or if your going to be soft, skate your ass off like Gonchar. But it can’t be both in my opinion. > [@wow sweet bentley CUSTOM!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-sweet-bentley-custom/39647/3): > > I agree 100%. There are times when it is painful to listen to the fans at the games. I was there a lot in 02-05 and I have to agree it seemed to be a “better” crowd compared to the larger crowds now. > > I do think Staal and Whitney are on the trading block, just sucks they have played like ass lately… It’s a catch 22. If they were playing well, there’d be no reason to trade them because they would fit better in the system here. But when they aren’t playing well, you’ll get less for them. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-08-09-penguins-thread/197996)._