# \*\*Official 2008 Buffalo Bills thread\*\*

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [August 9, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004 "2008-08-09T19:45:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1901 "2008-12-17T10:36:30Z")

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> [@Afrank45](#):
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> joe thomas really who trent cole ate for dinner monday night give me a break guys

way to avoid the other guys on that list :lol:

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1902 "2008-12-17T10:36:41Z")

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RACIST! :lol:

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1903 "2008-12-17T10:41:08Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> RACIST! :lol:

lol got me but im not avoiding any one on that list.

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1904 "2008-12-17T10:45:19Z")

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ok he doesn’t suck, but he’s GROSSLY overrated. maybe he can get back to where he was next season by not missing training camp again, but he isn’t as good as he was last year thats for sure

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**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1905 "2008-12-17T10:46:57Z")

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according to [stats.com](http://stats.com), peters has allowed 11.5 sacks this year compared to 6 last year, 2 the previous and 1.5 the year prior to that

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**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1906 "2008-12-17T10:47:46Z")

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joe thomas has given up 3.5

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**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1907 "2008-12-17T10:49:18Z")

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[http://hosted.stats.com/fb/findplayer.asp?type=position&position=95](http://hosted.stats.com/fb/findplayer.asp?type=position&position=95)

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1908 "2008-12-17T10:50:33Z")

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> [@upstateclipse](#):
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> according to [stats.com](http://stats.com), peters has allowed 11.5 sacks this year compared to 6 last year, 2 the previous and 1.5 the year prior to that

i knew it! i rest my case 🙂

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1909 "2008-12-17T10:52:06Z")

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> [@Adictd2b00st](#):
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> ok he doesn’t suck, but he’s GROSSLY overrated. maybe he can get back to where he was next season by not missing training camp again, but he isn’t as good as he was last year thats for sure

exactly my point and the left tackle position is down this year and i can make a legitimate debate for him to play in the pro bowl.

the point is the people of buffalo are jaded because he held out hurt the team blah blah blah but most people didnt watch him play last year they dont know how well he did or didnt play but they are quick to blame him this year because the media said he was a stud and they’ve seen him have a few bad plays this year.

The fact of the matter is he is a VERY GOOD left tackle and people in the league recognize that wether or not the angry people of buffalo want to recognize that or not.

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1910 "2008-12-17T10:56:34Z")

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the 5 players listed on the other page are all better than peters… thats the argument here lol and i’m not biased about the holdout i’m not even a bills fan 😉

_edit_ infact all of those players COMBINED have given up less sacks than peters this year

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1911 "2008-12-17T11:04:30Z")

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> [@Adictd2b00st](#):
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> the 5 players listed on the other page are all better than peters… thats the argument here lol and i’m not biased about the holdout i’m not even a bills fan 😉

roos’ stats are a bit inflated because kerry collins hasnt dropped back nearly as much as the bills qbs have but he is a very good tackle as well i agree

jake long is not anywhere near the top of the food chain when it comes to left tackles he may be at one point but right now that arguement is laughable.

Joe thomas has blocked for a back that will barely sniff 1000 yds and 2 qbs who together have barely broken 2000 yds passing.

I strongly agree with you on marcus mcniel he is an animal and probably the best left tackle in football enough said

I’m not sold on D-Brick hes playing next to one of the top 2 gaurds in football in faneca if dockery was half of what faneca is peters would be much better for it

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1912 "2008-12-17T11:08:40Z")

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so your argument on peters is that we have a 1000 yd back and a ~3000yd passer if edwards was healthy… yet in miami they have a 1000yd back and pennington has had a good season but jake long is “laughable”. how are they not comparable? the difference is long hasnt given up 13.5 sacks, and pennington isn’t exactly known for his mobility

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1913 "2008-12-17T11:12:27Z")

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> [@Adictd2b00st](#):
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> so your argument on peters is that we have a 1000 yd back and a ~3000yd passer if edwards was healthy… yet in miami they have a 1000yd back and pennington has had a good season but jake long is “laughable”. how are they not comparable? the difference is long hasnt given up 13.5 sacks, and pennington isn’t exactly known for his mobility

i noticed you avoided the rest of the arguement but thats neither here nor there.

jake long is not blocking for a 1000 yard back as a matter of fact ronnie brown has 827 yards also i thought it was 11.5 peters gave up why do the stats keep changing and im sure we attribute 2-3 of them on losman standing there with his head up his ass

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1914 "2008-12-17T11:16:39Z")

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ok sorry brown has 827 and ricky has what… 600? counts as a 1000 back to me. and even if it was 11.5, long has given up 2.5. and he’s a rookie lol

_edit_ as for “avoiding the rest of your argument” , yea roos stats may be a bit inflated in sacks allowed, but look at the rushing attack they’ve had… that cancels out.

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**Author:** ![97Ranger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97ranger/32/7342_2.png) [@97Ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97Ranger)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1915 "2008-12-17T12:21:44Z")

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11.5 sacks lol not to mention all the holding penalty’s and the 2 tripping penalty’s I remember and some false starts… ya he is great this year lol … he SUCKS this year.

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1916 "2008-12-17T12:38:44Z")

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all the holding penalties oh you mean the two…wow thats a lot

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**Author:** ![97Ranger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97ranger/32/7342_2.png) [@97Ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97Ranger)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1917 "2008-12-17T13:05:25Z")

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no hes had alot more then that… he averages 1-2 penalty’s a game its sickning

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**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1918 "2008-12-21T13:12:44Z")

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:tup: to losing already

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1919 "2008-12-21T13:13:31Z")

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4,057 - 3 Broncos

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-buffalo-bills-thread/53004/1920 "2008-12-21T13:26:05Z")

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I love that the bills seem to have the players that never learned to tackle in pop warner.

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