# OFFICIAL: 2008 ELECTION THREAD **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 3, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192 "2008-01-03T18:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1041 "2008-08-04T11:04:51Z")
:bigblap: nice. wait, is this the oil price thread of the election thread?? ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1042 "2008-08-04T11:51:55Z")
Gallup Daily: Obama 46%, McCain 43% ORLY JAY? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1043 "2008-08-04T12:32:52Z")
3% margin of error? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1044 "2008-08-04T12:43:35Z")
Tapping the strategic oil reserve is not a substitute for a real plan to increase supply through additional drilling and nuclear power. The strategic oil reserve exists for America’s national security strategy – not Barack Obama’s election strategy," said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds. “The last release of oil from the strategic reserve came in response to Hurricane Katrina, but the only crisis that has developed since Barack Obama last rejected this idea 28 days ago is a slide in his poll numbers.” awesome ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1045 "2008-08-04T12:52:51Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > Gallup Daily: Obama 46%, McCain 43% > > ORLY JAY? [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iNxTApa2sQRu0Xx99P3jt2bEXw7gD92BAL0O0](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iNxTApa2sQRu0Xx99P3jt2bEXw7gD92BAL0O0) > In the course of the McCain offensive, Obama’s lead in a Gallup Poll tracking survey slid from nine percentage points on July 26, when he returned, to nothing by Saturday, when the poll showed the candidates tied at 44 percent. YES RLY 😉 [http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public\_content/politics/election\_20082/2008\_presidential\_election/daily\_presidential\_tracking\_poll](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll) ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1046 "2008-08-04T13:00:53Z")
You’re using old data ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1047 "2008-08-04T13:07:37Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > You’re using old data August 4th for the Rasmussen one, and this weekend for Gallup isn’t old. But regardless, I’ll even take going from 9% to 3% behind after Obama’s big Iraq trip and being on the cover of every new source for a week. Can’t wait to see how his new view on tapping the oil reserves plays out. And for every swing voter his new “maybe” stance on drilling might have swayed I bet he lost 2 of his ultra-liberals. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1048 "2008-08-05T07:59:28Z")
I really can’t wait to see these two in a debate. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1049 "2008-08-05T08:02:31Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > I really can’t wait to see these two in a debate. You watch southpark? Remember the douche vs the turd sandwich? Yeah… ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1050 "2008-08-05T08:03:32Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > August 4th for the Rasmussen one, and this weekend for Gallup isn’t old. > > But regardless, I’ll even take going from 9% to 3% behind after Obama’s big Iraq trip and being on the cover of every new source for a week. > > Can’t wait to see how his new view on tapping the oil reserves plays out. And for every swing voter his new “maybe” stance on drilling might have swayed I bet he lost 2 of his ultra-liberals. 🙂 Lost ultra-liberals to who? yeah, no one. A couple things to keep in mind about polling right now: 1. The general election campaign hasn’t even started 2. The general election campaign hasn’t even started We’ll see how things shape up after a debate, the conventions, and when people actually start paying attention. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1051 "2008-08-05T08:09:50Z")
^ 3rd party Joe, traditional home of the ultra liberal. [http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view\_all&address=132x6576340](http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6576340) His far left base is not happy. But yeah, polls are pretty pointless right now. Lets wait until October when the 527’s start spamming the airwaves with their hate speeches. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1052 "2008-08-05T08:35:31Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > I hear ya. > The USA is used to a certain standard but here is the problem, we are trying to compete globally and keep our higher standards. > It just doesn’t work. So does that mean we should lower our standards? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1053 "2008-08-05T09:38:26Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > So does that mean we should lower our standards? That’s the million dollar question. :gotme: How do you compete in a global economy when your standard of living is sooooo much higher than 99% of the planet? If we don’t trade with other countries get ready to pay $20,000 for an LCD TV and $2,000 for an XBOX. But that would be lowering our standards anyway because no one would be able to have items like that. Like I said it is the million dollar question. There is no easy(or painless) answer. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1054 "2008-08-05T11:07:59Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > That’s the million dollar question. > :gotme: > How do you compete in a global economy when your standard of living is sooooo much higher than 99% of the planet? > If we don’t trade with other countries get ready to pay $20,000 for an LCD TV and $2,000 for an XBOX. > But that would be lowering our standards anyway because no one would be able to have items like that. > > Like I said it is the million dollar question. > There is no easy(or painless) answer. We could try to raise the standards in other countries. Maybe some sort of tax or tarriff on companies that employ people for so little. I mean if you hire a person to work on an assembly line in taiwan and there making just enough to get by but never to improve thier life, maybe force the issue on companies to provide wages and benefits to allow the social mobility that we have here in America. I’m not suggesting trying to make it exactly like the US but put it in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1055 "2008-08-05T11:16:15Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > We could try to raise the standards in other countries. Maybe some sort of tax or tarriff on companies that employ people for so little. I mean if you hire a person to work on an assembly line in taiwan and there making just enough to get by but never to improve thier life, maybe force the issue on companies to provide wages and benefits to allow the social mobility that we have here in America. I’m not suggesting trying to make it exactly like the US but put it in the right direction. So, you’re saying that we should act upon other sovereign nations so that they raise their standards of living to meet our views / opinions? And you’re a democrat? wow. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1056 "2008-08-05T11:19:57Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > We could try to raise the standards in other countries. Maybe some sort of tax or tarriff on companies that employ people for so little. I mean if you hire a person to work on an assembly line in taiwan and there making just enough to get by but never to improve thier life, maybe force the issue on companies to provide wages and benefits to allow the social mobility that we have here in America. I’m not suggesting trying to make it exactly like the US but put it in the right direction. World police wat? ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1057 "2008-08-05T11:21:01Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > So, you’re saying that we should act upon other sovereign nations so that they raise their standards of living to meet our views / opinions? > > And you’re a democrat? > > wow. Vs. meeting thier standards to compete in a global economy? If American companies want to hire outside the country then yes. And Im not a democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1058 "2008-08-05T11:30:46Z")
Then be prepared to pay $20,000 for a TV if want chinese people to be treated like us. I’m just sayin ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1059 "2008-08-05T11:31:33Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > And Im not a democrat. my apologies, i thought I remembered you supporting the dems. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/1060 "2008-08-05T14:07:43Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Then be prepared to pay $20,000 for a TV if want chinese people to be treated like us. > I’m just sayin They don’t have to be treated like us, but I’m just saying instead of expoiting people so that we can have cheap things and loose jobs why not try to instil some of the values that we came to believe in during the Progressive Era. If what your saying is true then we’re fucked and instead of bringing down our value of life why not try to bring everyone elses up. Again this is if your right and there is no other factors at play. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192.md?page=52) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192.md?page=54)