# Official Android thread **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430 "2009-10-28T08:05:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 151
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3001 "2012-11-14T11:44:40Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Why do people still have 3gs devices? They should be due for upgrade by now. Stop owning shitty old hardware. Not the point. In Android terms iOS6 wouldn’t even be available for the 4s, or iOS 5.1 for that matter. > [@ProgRocker](#): > > It’s not really a direct problem with Android though, it’s the fggt careers that hold the update so they can load their shit into it. Rooting and romming is made out to be like this monumental task. It’s not. I mean I guess it’s not the most convenient, but it offers users the ability to change roms, get new features that might not even be out for any version of Android, get performance increases, etc. I like that option. Oh yeah, it’s great if you want to constantly fuck with it to get all the basic features to work. Go back a couple pages and look at all the bullshit Fry went through. He might not be the most techy guy here but I’d put his skills WAY above the average user. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3002 "2012-11-14T11:46:38Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > I figured Apple owners were salivating over the latest device and would sell off children if they could to own it. > > …snip…] Not everyone is like that. Honestly, I don’t actually know that many people that have iphone 5’s. All my co-workers except 1 (the CISO) still have the 4/4s. I have friends that have anywhere from 3gs to 4s. What it comes down to is that the majority of phone owners cannot afford to pay full price. So they wait until their upgrade eligibility. Not every iPhone owner is an Apple Fanboi. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3003 "2012-11-14T11:49:13Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Not the point. In Android terms iOS6 wouldn’t even be available for the 4s, or iOS 5.1 for that matter. > > Oh yeah, it’s great if you want to constantly fuck with it to get all the basic features to work. Go back a couple pages and look at all the bullshit Fry went through. He might not be the most techy guy here but I’d put his skills WAY above the average user. Then you could say the same thing about cars…“Your car didn’t come with the exhaust you wanted…how lame”, “You had to change the wheels yourself…it should have came with those”. It you want the latest and greatest or to customize it how you want, sometimes you have to fuck with things. I’ve soft bricked my phones before…I keep going. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3004 "2012-11-14T11:49:35Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Not the point. In Android terms iOS6 wouldn’t even be available for the 4s, or iOS 5.1 for that matter. > > Oh yeah, it’s great if you want to constantly fuck with it to get all the basic features to work. Go back a couple pages and look at all the bullshit Fry went through. He might not be the most techy guy here but I’d put his skills WAY above the average user. Yeah, I hear ya. I have what is now considered a last-generation Nexus phone. I’m still getting updates. It was announced that Google is no longer supporting the Nexus S, though. That device was released in 2010. The problem is that it’s a crapshoot of whether or not your phone will get the updates. If it’s flagship/top-of-the-line device, it should get updates for 2 years, but how delayed will it be? 6 months is unacceptable. None of that is up to Google though. It’s up the OEM. IMO, none of the OEMs are doing a good job on Android devices at all. Samsung is doing better than the rest, with Motorola right behind and HTC trailing. Motorola is talking the talk right now, but the proof is in the pudding. ---
**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3005 "2012-11-14T12:07:01Z")
I just want to be able to uninstall/disable bloatware and customize how it looks. I use Nova Prime for looks/feel and uninstall as much as I can. If I get any glitches just back up and factory reset. Everyone keeps telling me to root but I really don’t care. Maybe im just getting older but i’m done modifying things. Same goes with cars, for the first time since I was 16 my car is completely stock and it’s great not blowing money on it and worrying if it will start in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3006 "2012-11-14T12:14:39Z")
![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Thorguitarist/2012-11-14065813_zps1f1f0f6c.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Thorguitarist/2012-11-14065813_zps1f1f0f6c.jpg) This morning when I got into work ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3007 "2012-11-14T12:18:45Z")
^ Know what 99.9% of iOS users did when they got to work today? Their work, not fuck around backing up their phone because their phone automatically backed up to iCloud when they plugged into the charger the night before. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3008 "2012-11-14T12:35:34Z")
your screen looks like shit with that cover on it ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3009 "2012-11-14T17:14:50Z")
but it looks mint without it! ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3010 "2012-11-14T17:53:34Z")
I’ve owned just about everything… Windows Phone 5/6 - BBerry - iPhone 4 - Thunderbolt… iOS was awesome. Everything worked and synched. It was nice. But I got sick of not being able to customized anything (without jail breaking), the ridiculously small screen, and also I wanted to try out LTE. My phone is still on Gingerbread (yes, random restarts, bugs, and poor battery life) but I have Ice Cream Sandwhich/Cyanogen Mod on my touchpad and I just like it more than I do Apple products. I just like the freedom of rom’ing, customizing, and vast choices of phones which is worth the occasional hiccup to me. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3011 "2012-11-14T18:12:12Z")
Semi relevant [http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org](http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org) ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3012 "2012-11-14T19:08:19Z")
^ That’s some n&\*%er shit right there. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3013 "2012-11-15T04:25:44Z")
apparently he admitted defeat and gave it back. what a dick though ---
**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3014 "2012-11-15T11:46:59Z")
Newest home screen, I did have the icons totally transparent but changed them to blue EDIT: Not rooted just launcher and widgets. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/num482/Screenshot.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/num482/Screenshot.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3015 "2012-11-15T20:08:28Z")
I have been searching Google and have yet to find a response… my mom has a dumb phone and is due for an upgrade. She wants to keep her contract and phone, but I was thinking why not add data get an iPhone 5 for $199, then drop the data plan and eBay the iPhone. Can you sell an upgraded phone without activating it first? ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3016 "2012-11-15T20:43:13Z")
I had a bionic-- after waiting four hundred years for them to finally release ICS, it blows ass. Rather than deal with it anymore, I bought my friends 3 month old razr maxx for 200 bucks. The battery life is staggering compared to the bionic. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3017 "2012-11-15T20:43:16Z")
an iPhone is an iPhone…sell it. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3018 "2012-11-16T05:33:08Z")
> [@IWantaSupra](#): > > I have been searching Google and have yet to find a response… my mom has a dumb phone and is due for an upgrade. She wants to keep her contract and phone, but I was thinking why not add data get an iPhone 5 for $199, then drop the data plan and eBay the iPhone. Can you sell an upgraded phone without activating it first? easy answer: no. and depending on where you buy there may be an agreement to keep it active on that line for 6 months after you buy due to the subsidy you are getting. These phones cost the stores $600+, they are selling it to customers at a loss up front because the carrier will reimburse them for the contract upgrade renewal. However, more often than not, if you take that new phone off the line, the carrier will either not pay the store or charge them back, meaning the store takes a $400+ loss on your phone. Online (at least for verizon) is a different story but still requires the phone be activated on the line and a contract renewed. So now your 2 year old phone that you just used the upgrade to flip a phone will now be at the very least ~3.5 years old when you can get a new one. ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3019 "2012-11-16T12:44:50Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > easy answer: no. and depending on where you buy there may be an agreement to keep it active on that line for 6 months after you buy due to the subsidy you are getting. These phones cost the stores $600+, they are selling it to customers at a loss up front because the carrier will reimburse them for the contract upgrade renewal. However, more often than not, if you take that new phone off the line, the carrier will either not pay the store or charge them back, meaning the store takes a $400+ loss on your phone. > > Online (at least for verizon) is a different story but still requires the phone be activated on the line and a contract renewed. So now your 2 year old phone that you just used the upgrade to flip a phone will now be at the very least ~3.5 years old when you can get a new one. Verizon will not sell you an upgrade phone without activating it. Tried it 2 nights ago. ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430/3020 "2012-11-16T22:35:08Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > easy answer: no. and depending on where you buy there may be an agreement to keep it active on that line for 6 months after you buy due to the subsidy you are getting. These phones cost the stores $600+, they are selling it to customers at a loss up front because the carrier will reimburse them for the contract upgrade renewal. However, more often than not, if you take that new phone off the line, the carrier will either not pay the store or charge them back, meaning the store takes a $400+ loss on your phone. > > Online (at least for verizon) is a different story but still requires the phone be activated on the line and a contract renewed. So now your 2 year old phone that you just used the upgrade to flip a phone will now be at the very least ~3.5 years old when you can get a new one. Thanks… I am actually going to take her upgrade and get the DNA so that I may keep my unlimited data plan. I can get her a new dumb phone online for almost the subsidy price anyway. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430.md?page=150) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-android-thread/75430.md?page=152)