# Official MythBusters "PLANE on a CONVEYOR" episode PARTY!!! (12/12/07 @ 8pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 23, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453 "2007-10-23T07:09:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/321 "2007-12-12T20:57:12Z")
[quote=“Willybeen,post:314,topic:37453"”] watch the video. yes. dot. [/quote] In the Mythbusters experiment, the runway speed is equal to the plane’s takeoff speed. CLEARLY, they carefully calculated that key factor into that Youtube video. I mean they proved it…wait, no they didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/322 "2007-12-12T20:58:24Z")
[quote=“01AudiS4,post:319,topic:37453"”] But the plane is moving forword, how did you miss that. [/quote] if the plane is moving forward then the conveyor belt is not matching the speed of the plane. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/323 "2007-12-12T20:58:54Z")
[quote=“HotRodKid,post:320,topic:37453"”] doesnt matter, just run the treadmill faster then the plane can move, do it from the very start, point proven plane leaves runway @ 5mph run treadmill at 10mph taxi plane forward and lift off [/quote] amen… watch the video… that plane was not moving forward at all… anthony ur physics are worthless here… the plane will move forward… wind will move over the wings, lift will be generated… /discussion im done here ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/324 "2007-12-12T20:58:59Z")
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the Mythbuster’s experiment involves the treadmill equaling the plane’s takeoff speed. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/325 "2007-12-12T20:59:19Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:317,topic:37453"”] momentum = mass X velocity Velocity = distance/time get it straight willybeen the plane isnt moving so the distance traveled is 0. 0/ any number is 0 and mass x 0 is 0. so it actually doenst have momentum. and besides its not forward momentum that lifts a plane, its wind. [/quote] we know its not forward momentum but it will gain forward momentum over an infinite amount of time and which given X amount of time and Y amount of distance it will eventually take off cause it will have gained that forward momentum which creates wind which gets the plane lift ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/326 "2007-12-12T20:59:58Z")
hell the treadmill can be going faster than the plane… the wheels will just spin faster… its WHEELSPIN not SOG of plane… the plane will still gain speed ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/327 "2007-12-12T20:59:58Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:317,topic:37453"”] momentum = mass X velocity Velocity = distance/time get it straight willybeen the plane isnt moving so the distance traveled is 0. 0/ any number is 0 and mass x 0 is 0. so it actually doenst have momentum. and besides its not forward momentum that lifts a plane, its wind. [/quote] Yeah, wind. :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/328 "2007-12-12T21:00:18Z")
[quote=“Willybeen,post:323,topic:37453"”] amen… watch the video… that plane was not moving forward at all… anthony ur physics are worthless here… the plane will move forward… wind will move over the wings, lift will be generated… /discussion im done here [/quote] watch the vid, r u retarded, can u see the wheels touching the treadmill? because i certainly cant, that piece of string for all i know is holding up that piece of paper you call a plane ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/329 "2007-12-12T21:00:49Z")
[quote=“Tunerfreak,post:325,topic:37453"”] we know its not forward momentum but it will gain forward momentum over an infinite amount of time [/quote] It doesn’t get an infinite amount of time. It gets 1/4 mile. So regardless of what would happen on your imaginary 1,000 mile long runway, on the 1/4 Mythbusters runway, it won’t take off. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/330 "2007-12-12T21:01:08Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:328,topic:37453"”] watch the vid, r u retarded, can u see the wheels touching the treadmill? because i certainly cant, that piece of string for all i know is holding up that piece of paper you call a plane [/quote] Needs more wind. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/331 "2007-12-12T21:02:27Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:322,topic:37453"”] if the plane is moving forward then the conveyor belt is not matching the speed of the plane. [/quote] yes it is. the wheels dont move the plane. take the wheels off and lay the plane down on its belly on a frictionless surface and it will take off. its the same as with the wheels on ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/332 "2007-12-12T21:02:41Z")
HAHAHAHAH Back to square 1. JAN. 30th…maybe another meet? ---
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/333 "2007-12-12T21:03:05Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:317,topic:37453"”] momentum = mass X velocity Velocity = distance/time get it straight willybeen the plane isnt moving so the distance traveled is 0. 0/ any number is 0 and mass x 0 is 0. so it actually doenst have momentum. and besides its not forward momentum that lifts a plane, its wind. [/quote] lol and why exactly isn’t the plane moving? yeah, that’s right. this again. edit- think of it this way (onyx and i were talking about this earlier): the acceleration the wheels create is canceled out by the conveyor belt. so, say the wheels are a +1 and the conveyor belt is a -1. that leaves you with 0. the plane isn’t going anywhere. now turn on the jet engines… ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/334 "2007-12-12T21:03:32Z")
OMG NO WAI ok omg kidding i really dont care at all lol ---
**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/335 "2007-12-12T21:04:31Z")
[quote=“brent\_strong,post:327,topic:37453"”] Yeah, wind. :bloated: [/quote] let me rephrase, lift (lifting force) - the mechanical force generated by solid objects moving through a fluid (ie: wings and air). if a plane only needs “infinite forward momentum” (ha that just sounds funny) y does it have wings? ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/336 "2007-12-12T21:05:34Z")
[quote=“Pass McGrass,post:333,topic:37453"”] lol and why exactly isn’t the plane moving? [/quote] Read how they are structuring the experiment. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/337 "2007-12-12T21:05:51Z")
[quote=“SI01,post:329,topic:37453"”] It doesn’t get an infinite amount of time. It gets 1/4 mile. So regardless of what would happen on your imaginary 1,000 mile long runway, on the 1/4 Mythbusters runway, it won’t take off. [/quote] bah should have rethought that lol… but regardless it will still take off since the jets move the plane not the wheels ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/338 "2007-12-12T21:07:18Z")
[quote=“Tunerfreak,post:337,topic:37453"”] bah should have rethought that lol… but regardless it will still take off since the jets move the plane not the wheels [/quote] Dude…we aren’t talking about jump jets here. The wheels are a key part of the takeoff process. ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/339 "2007-12-12T21:07:38Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:335,topic:37453"”] let me rephrase, lift (lifting force) - the mechanical force generated by solid objects moving through a fluid (ie: wings and air). if a plane only needs “infinite forward momentum” (ha that just sounds funny) y does it have wings? [/quote] beck? cuban? surely you can’t be real… ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/340 "2007-12-12T21:08:41Z")
[quote=“943kgt,post:322,topic:37453"”] if the plane is moving forward then the conveyor belt is not matching the speed of the plane. [/quote] fucking wow [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453.md?page=18)