# Official MythBusters "PLANE on a CONVEYOR" episode PARTY!!! (12/12/07 @ 8pm)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 23, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453 "2007-10-23T07:09:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/341 "2007-12-12T21:09:23Z")

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[quote=“90NA300ZX,post:339,topic:37453"”]

beck?

cuban?

surely you can’t be real…

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FAIL

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**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/342 "2007-12-12T21:10:10Z")

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[quote=“90NA300ZX,post:339,topic:37453"”]

beck?

cuban?

surely you can’t be real…

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We’ll just ignore the fact that he joined one month after you…

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/343 "2007-12-12T21:10:40Z")

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^^ funny YOU should say that

edit: ment for 943kgt

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**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/344 "2007-12-12T21:12:16Z")

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[quote=“HotRodKid,post:340,topic:37453"”]

fucking wow

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i’m not talking about the video, that thing means dick, it has a string that holds the plane who knows how high. the equations i’m posting are for a theoretical experiment that if this plane isnt moving there is no momentum regardless if the wheels are turning

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**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/345 "2007-12-12T21:12:40Z")

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If for nothing else, you should all admit that Youtube video is meaningless.

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**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/346 "2007-12-12T21:14:15Z")

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[quote=“943kgt,post:344,topic:37453"”]

if this plane isnt moving there is no momentum regardless if the wheels are turning

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Spot on. I don’t understand how so many people can’t see this won’t work.

I’m going to bed. I already went through this for thousands of pages on NASIOC.

Have a good time banging your heads into a brick wall.

These are all just words until Jan. 30.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/347 "2007-12-12T21:17:35Z")

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dude… we could set it up on ur treadmill with a plane… and it would move forward… and would you be in belief now…?

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/348 "2007-12-12T21:25:16Z")

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[quote=“943kgt,post:344,topic:37453"”]

i’m not talking about the video, that thing means dick, it has a string that holds the plane who knows how high. the equations i’m posting are for a theoretical experiment that if this plane isnt moving there is no momentum regardless if the wheels are turning

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reread the problem

problem states the plne moves forward

this is what happens in reality

plane starts to taxi  
plane moves forward @ 1mph, this takes, say 10 pounds of thrust  
runway rolls backwards at 1mph  
wheels see a combined total of 2mph  
resistance of the wheels cause 1 pound of rollling resistance  
9 pounds of thrust left, plane still movig forward at 1mph (in relation to the grass / trees / parking lot, not the conveyor belt)

plane accels to 2mph, 20 pounds of thrust used  
runway rolls backwards at 2mph  
wheels see a combined total of 4mph  
resistance of the wheels now cause 2 pounds of rollling resistance  
18 pounds of thrust left, plane still movig forward at 2mph(in relation to the grass / trees / parking lot, not the conveyor belt)

plane accels to 4mph, 40 pounds of thrust used  
runway rolls backwards at 4mph  
wheels see a combined total of 8mph  
resistance of the wheels now cause 4 pounds of rollling resistance  
36 pounds of thrust left, plane still movig forward at 4mph(in relation to the grass / trees / parking lot, not the conveyor belt)

so lets say:  
engine / prop generates max of X pounds of thrust  
plane needs Y pounds of thrust to attain lift off speed  
wheel drag causes Z pounds of resistance

the only way the plane wont take off is if: x-z\<y

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**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/349 "2007-12-12T21:28:30Z")

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[quote=“943kgt,post:341,topic:37453"”]

FAIL

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ohhhhhh…

the irony in you saying that to me…

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**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/350 "2007-12-12T21:30:58Z")

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its the amount of thrust, not lift, that will make this plane LIFT OFF? is essentially what ur saying right?

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/351 "2007-12-12T21:34:28Z")

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thrust moves the plane forward, lift is a result of this … just like it is for any other plane on a normal runway

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**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/352 "2007-12-12T21:34:54Z")

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[quote=“943kgt”"]

hmm thrust generates lift? according to nasa lift is created by a flow of air, and judging by the animations on the bottom, it doesnt appear to be coming from thrusters or a prop…

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**AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!** :ham:

[quote=“SI01,post:324,topic:37453"”]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that the Mythbuster’s experiment involves the treadmill equaling the plane’s takeoff speed.

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**AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!** :ham:

the wheels can be spinning negative eleventybilliontrillion pineapples/hour (it’s completely irrelevant), and the plane will still claw its way forward via the **engines, which have nothing to do with the ground**.

What’s stopping the plane from moving??? Spinning wheels?? **NO, NOTHING IS STOPPING THE PLANE FROM MOVING!!!** The plane will **MOVE FORWARD** the same as it would if it were on a stationary runway.

Goddamnit, I told myself I wouldn’t ever get involved in this shit, but 943kgt and SI01 make me want to gouge my brain out with a spoon.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/353 "2007-12-12T21:37:02Z")

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SHUT THE FUCK UP

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**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/354 "2007-12-12T21:39:16Z")

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[http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/vel.html](http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/vel.html)

hmm thrust generates lift? according to nasa lift is created by a flow of air

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/355 "2007-12-12T21:41:34Z")

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my old image about this

tie a rope to the tail of the plane, loop it around a pulley thats on a post behind the runway, glue other end of rope to the conveyor belt

plane powers up, moves forward

runway rolls backwards but this doesnt stop the plane for continueing to roll forward … and foward travel will = forward FLIGHT

![http://nyspeed.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=542&d=1140056521](http://nyspeed.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=542&d=1140056521)

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/356 "2007-12-12T21:42:28Z")

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fuck…whatever… i had a good time tonight.

Except kevin throwing 3 knives at me. I didn’t enjoy that too much.

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**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/357 "2007-12-12T21:42:40Z")

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[quote=“943kgt,post:354,topic:37453"”]

[http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/vel.html](http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/vel.html)

hmm thrust generates lift? according to nasa lift is created by a flow of air

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:rx3:🤣

Fag.

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**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/358 "2007-12-12T21:46:36Z")

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and judging by the animations on the bottom, it doesnt appear to be coming from thrusters or a prop…oh and look theres even a graph that if you slow it down to 0 mph, shows 0 lift…

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**Author:** ![943kgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/4bbf92/32.png) [@943kgt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/943kgt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/359 "2007-12-12T21:47:15Z")

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[quote=“brent\_strong,post:357,topic:37453"”]

:rx3:🤣

Fag.

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quite the comeback

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/360 "2007-12-12T21:48:28Z")

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[quote=“943kgt,post:354,topic:37453"”]

[http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/vel.html](http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/vel.html)

hmm thrust generates lift? according to nasa lift is created by a flow of air, and judging by the animations on the bottom, it doesnt appear to be coming from thrusters or a prop…

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OMG are you fuckin stupid!!! no shit lift is created by airflow, thrust creates the air flow by pushing the plane forward which causes wind which causes lift

thrust moves the plane -\> wind is created when plane moves -\> lift is there fore created -\> plane takes off with the wheels spinning a bazillion MPH because the treadmill is matching the speed of the wheels

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