# Official: NHL Playoff Thread
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [April 9, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500 "2008-04-09T12:03:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/441 "2008-05-12T10:10:45Z")
> [@livin4hockey](#):
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> Rangers fan actually… So I’m bitter about the loss last round. But I’ve never really liked Pittsburgh at all with the Sid the Kid hype and all that. He needs to toughen up his play to earn more respect. So that being said, I don’t want to see Pittsburgh win the Cup.
if they do it wont be ebcause of Sid, Well maybe him taking dives to get penaltys so they can actually score.
It will be because Malkin is a BEAST.
My Flyers need to get it in gear, K.T was a BIG loss but they should be able to play better offense to make up for struggling D.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/442 "2008-05-12T10:13:34Z")
> [@Adictd2b00st](#):
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> penguins got a ton of breaks in that game… and as much as i dislike philly too it was pretty lame to see hatcher make a nice defensive 1 on 1 play to stand up malkin like that and then get called for imaginary holding lol
Pittsburgh got some breaks, but it should have been 2-0 in th first because that was clearly a goal. You see the puck right on the line, then you can’t see the line but can clearly see the puck go another inch or more. At some point common sense has to come into these replays and say "if I could clearly see the puck right on the line, then clearly see the puck go an inch FARTHER into the net, it must have crossed the line.
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### Author:  [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/443 "2008-05-12T10:42:25Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> it should have been 2-0 in th first because that was clearly a goal. You see the puck right on the line, then you can’t see the line but can clearly see the puck go another inch or more. At some point common sense has to come into these replays and say "if I could clearly see the puck right on the line, then clearly see the puck go an inch FARTHER into the net, it must have crossed the line.
+1
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### Author:  [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/444 "2008-05-12T10:49:12Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> Pittsburgh got some breaks, but it should have been 2-0 in th first because that was clearly a goal. You see the puck right on the line, then you can’t see the line but can clearly see the puck go another inch or more. At some point common sense has to come into these replays and say "if I could clearly see the puck right on the line, then clearly see the puck go an inch FARTHER into the net, it must have crossed the line.
believe me i hear you… and as a goalie ive done that before, and know damn well the puck was over the line… .BUT as in the rules… it was NOT conclusive… you couldnt see the WHOLE puck cross, and you would have to see that to overturn the ruling… trust me i was screaming that it was a goal, but even though you, i and everyone else know that puck crossed the line, there was still a portion that was covered by the glove you REALLY couldnt tell that totally crossed…
was it a bullshit call… yes… but was it a right call… yes
what got me was the two penalties by biron and ruutu… how the fuck can you have a cross check AND a dive… come on now… its like calling off sides and false start in football
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### Author:  [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/445 "2008-05-12T11:19:34Z")
> [@Just Karter](#):
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> if they do it wont be ebcause of Sid, Well maybe him taking dives to get penaltys so they can actually score.
> It will be because Malkin is a BEAST.
>
> My Flyers need to get it in gear, K.T was a BIG loss but they should be able to play better offense to make up for struggling D.
I thought crosby played very well yesterday, and malkin was a bit shook after he got laid out twice following the elbow to briere. Him getting rid of the puck at the blue line was the turnover that led to the short handed goal. and I’m not really a big crosby fan
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/446 "2008-05-12T11:26:53Z")
> [@AFhockey31](#):
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> how the fuck can you have a cross check AND a dive.
Easy, it happens all the time in the NHL. I cross check you, not hard but enough to be illegal, but you flop on the ice as though hit by a truck. Ref doesn’t like your embellishment and calls you for the dive, while calling me for original infraction.
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### Author:  [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/447 "2008-05-12T11:33:20Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> Easy, it happens all the time in the NHL. I cross check you, not hard but enough to be illegal, but you flop on the ice as though hit by a truck. Ref doesn’t like your embellishment and calls you for the dive, while calling me for original infraction.
i see what youre saying but i dunno… still dont think its right… it was a pretty good check to the front of him…
if anyones ever been on skates and got pushed backwards like that, being caught off guard, youre gonna fall… i dont think he dove that time, it shoulda been a cross check. the fact that original penalty gets called and then a min later, they send ruutu to the box was dumb… call both right there, dont sit and think bout it
although i dont agree with the tripping penalty to franken-hatcher on malkin… malkin forced the penalty and hatch really didnt do anything.
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### Author:  [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/448 "2008-05-12T12:07:32Z")
> [@Just Karter](#):
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> if they do it wont be ebcause of Sid, Well maybe him taking dives to get penaltys so they can actually score.
> It will be because Malkin is a BEAST.
>
> My Flyers need to get it in gear, K.T was a BIG loss but they should be able to play better offense to make up for struggling D.
Malkin is a great player, I will definitely agree with that. But I’m just not a fan of Crosby and the Pittsburgh Penguins in general. But with the way they’re playing, they seem unstoppable at times.
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### Author:  [@FBodyMadnezz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FBodyMadnezz)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/449 "2008-05-12T20:23:40Z")
> [@AFhockey31](#):
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> believe me i hear you… and as a goalie ive done that before, and know damn well the puck was over the line… .BUT as in the rules… it was NOT conclusive… you couldnt see the WHOLE puck cross, and you would have to see that to overturn the ruling… trust me i was screaming that it was a goal, but even though you, i and everyone else know that puck crossed the line, there was still a portion that was covered by the glove you REALLY couldnt tell that totally crossed…
>
> was it a bullshit call… yes… but was it a right call… yes
>
> what got me was the two penalties by biron and ruutu… how the fuck can you have a cross check AND a dive… come on now… its like calling off sides and false start in football
i knew they werent gonna overturn the goal because you could never tell it was in, only assume, like you said.
i think they called rutuu after the biron thing, hartnell or hatcher gave rutuu a face wash/nudge after the play and rutuu i think tried to sell it a bit. if they were calling it on the biron hit then it was bullshit.
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### Author:  [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/450 "2008-05-13T13:16:47Z")
Anywhere online the game tonite will be streaming? I’ll be at my parents place and they have dish network and don’t have the Versus package purchased.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/451 "2008-05-13T13:20:02Z")
I’m predicting a Philly win tonight.
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### Author:  [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/452 "2008-05-13T13:23:12Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> I’m predicting a Philly win tonight.
Oh how I love when your right, we shall see.
Biron will have to come up Big again, like in the other series.
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### Author:  [@FBodyMadnezz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FBodyMadnezz)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/453 "2008-05-13T15:06:14Z")
[http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=icehockey](http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=icehockey)
you have to download compcast should be on that site. or sometimes theresa windows media player edition
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### Author:  [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/454 "2008-05-13T15:17:33Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> Pittsburgh got some breaks, but it should have been 2-0 in th first because that was clearly a goal. You see the puck right on the line, then you can’t see the line but can clearly see the puck go another inch or more. At some point common sense has to come into these replays and say "if I could clearly see the puck right on the line, then clearly see the puck go an inch FARTHER into the net, it must have crossed the line.
thats fine and dandy, but you couldn’t SEE the puck go across, so its not a goal. it was the right call. and if you start introducing “common sense” into the equation, where do you draw the line? it’ll never be perfect, so just leave it the way it is imho
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/455 "2008-05-13T16:28:31Z")
^ Draw the line at the common side of common sense. 🙂
Like in the case of this specific goal you can freeze frame it and see the puck is right on the line. If it goes 1/16th of an inch more it’s a goal. As you advance the replay frame by frame the glove covers the line but you see the puck go more than an inch farther into the next. It doesn’t take rocket science, trigonometry or psychic powers to know the puck is in the net.
The rule only says it has to be conclusive, it says nothing about “you have to see it clearly”. To me conclusive is when you see a puck that is millimeters away from crossing the line, then the puck goes more than an inch, even if you can’t see the line anymore you conclusively know it’s in. Everyone watching KNEW it was in, but used the cop out of “well, it won’t be a goal because we don’t see white ice”. It’s the sports equivalent to getting away with murder because some cop forgot to read you your rights.
Doesn’t matter, the NHL is run by a complete fucktard sent over by the NBA to guarantee the NHL would never surpass the NBA in ratings and has far bigger issues than it’s replay system. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/456 "2008-05-13T16:31:31Z")
conclusive = seeing it, thats the only way you KNOW 100% 😉
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/457 "2008-05-13T19:01:12Z")
Wow… really didn’t expect to see Philly refuse to shoot the puck deep like this. It’s like watching lemmings just continue to walk single file off a cliff.
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### Author:  [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/458 "2008-05-13T19:03:03Z")
HERE COMES THE SWEEP!!!
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### Author:  [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/459 "2008-05-13T19:03:18Z")
it was their worst game this series for sure
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### Author:  [@FBodyMadnezz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FBodyMadnezz)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/460 "2008-05-13T20:12:15Z")
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