# \*\*\*Official Nokia Crew Thread\*\*\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 12, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724 "2009-10-12T08:38:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/321 "2011-06-22T11:36:12Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Yeah, it looks nice after doing some investigatory work. I think this engadget editorial is getting it right though. [Editorial: Dear Nokia, you cannot be serious!](http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/editorial-dear-nokia-you-cannot-be-serious/) > > 2 show-stoppers > > 1. They’ve committed to WP7, so the future is grim > 2. 3rd party app support. Being capable of running android apps is OK. But I question the functionality/integration of it. That editorial sucks for several reasons. Nokia is not exclusively committed to WP7. Nokia has committed to 1 MeeGo device per year because it’s not meant to be a mass market device (anymore) same as the N900 I’m on right now. It’s a “disruption” phone that is more for Linux nerds and techies who don’t want to be limited by closed source operating systems. The future is only grim if you start with the premise that Nokia is trying to make these devices main stream for the American market; which is totally wrong. > If Nokia isn’t fully invested in MeeGo and Qt, why should you be? This is where he goes wrong. Even if Nokia were to totally give up on it, MeeGo isn’t Nokia; it’s Intel. And Intel is solidly behind it as well as the MeeGo community which drives innovation and development. There are many devices planed, not just phones, which are running MeeGo. This phone simply skins MeeGo for use as a phone. And MeeGo is essentially Linux. Nokia hasn’t supported my N900 in over a year but because it’s a community driven device and OS, updates keep coming out for the phone because the community keeps improving it. Instead of waiting for Apple, Google or Microsoft to fix bugs and add features the community just does it. The writer is also thinking from an American standpoint and not a global one. WP7 is simply replacing Symbian, and MeeGo is an extension of Maemo. 99% of Nokia phones are Symbian and never made it in the U.S. Nokia only makes 1 phone (the N900) that runs Maemo. Now the plan originally was to gradually phase Symbian phones to MeeGo, but at some point in the past few years America began driving global phone trends and not Europe. So Nokia figures it has a better shot with Windows in the now much more important American market (that Nokia needs to finally get into to get back on top) than it did with a transition to MeeGo. And they’re probably right. But America isn’t the only market. As for the functionality / integration of Android apps, take a look for yourself. This video is running on an N900: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWEyKjwk2g) More here: [http://www.myriadgroup.com/Device-Manufacturers/Android-solutions/Alien-Dalvik.aspx](http://www.myriadgroup.com/Device-Manufacturers/Android-solutions/Alien-Dalvik.aspx) I’ve seen my phone running Android, iOS and pretty much any other OS’s applications that the community sees a demand for. And because there is no single “app store” controlled by the manufacturer, there isn’t anyone to pull down software that might “piss them off” a-la-Apple. These “repositories” are sorted by different levels of testing & completion so you know what software might work flawlessly and what might still be in the testing or development phase. It’s not for everyone, and won’t be a phone you see your sister and her friends drooling over, but those who know what it’s all about will appreciate it’s capabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/322 "2011-06-22T11:49:20Z")
So what do you do with it that doesn’t work out of the box from Andoid or Apple? ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/323 "2011-06-22T12:18:27Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > So what do you do with it that doesn’t work out of the box from Andoid or Apple? Apple has great hardware, limited by silly things like “fake” multitasking and no Flash support. Android has :tif: phones that are simply a war of specs over style, and an OS that doesn’t work as good (in general) as Apple because they need to make it work over a broad spectrum of devices. This is the best of both worlds; an OS that’s even more open than Android and that can do all the things Apple fails to do, all with hardware quality and an OS experience that’s at least on par with Apple. It’s not about what it can do but how it does it. It’s a different approach that I’ve grown to appreciate with Maemo (on my N900) and why I haven’t jumped ship just yet. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/324 "2011-06-22T12:24:05Z")
I completely disagree with the statement, Android doesn’t work as good as iOS. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/325 "2011-06-22T13:35:48Z")
I said “in general,” meaning it might have all the same capabilities productivity & application wise, but in my experience it lags, freezes, etc. while doing it. More so than iOS. Even if it was perfectly polished there isn’t an Android phone (hardware) that’s really compelling enough to make me want to buy one. Android in an iPhone body; definitely sign me up. But I can’t even tell you what Android phones I’ve used because they’re all generally the same and uninteresting, and none of them stand out that I remember them. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/326 "2012-02-27T12:23:31Z")
So my N9 has been awesome, despite only having an 8mp camera and not the 12mp from the older N8… … And then Nokia announces this today: ![http://bestboyz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Nokia_808_PureView_black_Back_1200x1200.png](http://bestboyz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Nokia_808_PureView_black_Back_1200x1200.png) 41mp… :orly: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/327 "2012-02-27T12:48:26Z")
if a DSLR doesn’t need 41mp, then why the fuck does a phone? ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724/328 "2012-02-27T12:54:39Z")
Interpolation. Namely very good digital zoom with this Pureview processing. Some of the images look incredible. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nokia-crew-thread/74724.md?page=16)