# «OFFICIAL» NYSpeed Showcases: Grand Prix Watkins Glen July 3rd to 5th 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 9, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894 "2009-04-09T10:10:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/201 "2009-07-07T10:28:12Z")
Nice pic Ian. You’ve certainly improved a TON over the past year. ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/202 "2009-07-07T10:28:52Z")
Thanks. Im still looking for that editing niche, but overall im starting to become pleased with my results 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/203 "2009-07-07T10:31:58Z")
Do you have that higher res, I could use a new background. Somewhere around 1600 in width? ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/204 "2009-07-07T10:36:47Z")
Hows 5914 x 2072 ??? haha [![](https://s.yimg.com/pw/images/en-us/photo_unavailable_l.png) ](https://s.yimg.com/pw/images/en-us/photo_unavailable_l.png) ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/205 "2009-07-07T11:12:43Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > Rarrrrr fap fap fap ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/206 "2009-07-07T11:18:02Z")
Cool wide shot. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/207 "2009-07-07T11:25:28Z")
Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/208 "2009-07-09T16:21:44Z")
Man, that S60 R is awesome! ---
**Author:** ![mav7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/54ee81/32.png) [@mav7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mav7)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/209 "2009-07-10T12:44:31Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > First lapping session Bing got yelled at by the track for “warming up his tires” and Mike from Innovative got yelled at for giving too much space, then “vanishing.” lol 🙂 Well that explains why he wrecked a customer car! :spank: ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/210 "2009-07-10T12:49:23Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > Man, that S60 R is awesome! UGH they sounded good. Straight piped I5 FTW ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/211 "2009-07-10T12:51:56Z")
> [@mav7](#): > > Well that explains why he wrecked a customer car! :spank: Yeah, I think next year parade laps are going to need to be more regulated…either by the Glen having to get nasty or by Onyx/event organizers keeping people from being irresponsible. This is what happens when screwing around goes to far, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/212 "2009-07-10T12:58:26Z")
To everyone that doesn’t know the story, and who are making assumptions / listening to rumors about what happened, [READ HERE.](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73206) The only change next year is that we need to sign waivers before driving on track. We’ll probably get more time on track too :tup: ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/213 "2009-07-10T13:07:37Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > To everyone that doesn’t know the story, and who are making assumptions / listening to rumors about what happened, [READ HERE.](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73206) > > The only change next year is that we need to sign waivers before driving on track. We’ll probably get more time on track too :tup: So it isn’t a problem with track officials or the event organizers that two people were “spoken to” about their inappropriate actions and one person wrecked a car on a parade lap? And everyone agrees that no changes are necessary to ensure that this doesn’t happen again? As for the debris on the track, should that be a concern on a parade lap? Even with debris, I think it’s assumed that cars on a parade lap should be going slow enough to deal with anything short of an oil slick or an ice patch, but maybe I’m wrong. I’m not concerned with who’s car it was or who was driving it. That’s between them. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/214 "2009-07-10T13:20:38Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > So it isn’t a problem with track officials or the event organizers that two people were “spoken to” about their inappropriate actions and one person wrecked a car on a parade lap? And everyone agrees that no changes are necessary to ensure that this doesn’t happen again? No, it’s not a problem actually. Bing was moving left and right at about 40mph because we he was stuck behind some old guys in Corvettes, and they told him to stay straight. And the official was laughing about how fast the Supra pulled away, and asked him to slow it down just a bit which he did since I was riding with him the next time we went on track. But you wouldn’t know that since you weren’t there 😉 > [@brent\_strong](#): > > As for the debris on the track, should that be a concern on a parade lap? Even with debris, I think it’s assumed that cars on a parade lap should be going slow enough to deal with anything short of an oil slick or an ice patch, but maybe I’m wrong. Yes, it’s a concern that the track has already addressed. The pace car took everyone off the race line and over the stones kicked up by the slicks of the IRL cars. At any speed, taking a turn over debris can cause traction problems. The Supra was directly behind a Camary pace car. ---
**Author:** ![mav7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/54ee81/32.png) [@mav7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mav7)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/215 "2009-07-10T13:22:59Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > So it isn’t a problem with track officials or the event organizers that two people were “spoken to” about their inappropriate actions and one person wrecked a car on a parade lap? And everyone agrees that no changes are necessary to ensure that this doesn’t happen again? I think the important points to consider are: 1. The 2 people in question were warned 2. One of those people actually wrecked a car the following day after being warned. No offense to this event, I actually would have loved to attend it. But I think those who think they can drive fast during this event should participate in an actual track day at the Glen, with proper safety gear. Think of all of the safety concerns that “hot dogging” during such events may cause. Not to mention the possibility of getting the event canceled the following year. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/216 "2009-07-10T13:35:44Z")
A warning implies that there were consequences for their actions, of which there were none. If they were doing something that was potentially dangerous to themselves or anyone else they would have been pulled from any further laps immediately. But they were not ‘warned’ of anything, simply asked. Again man, neither of you guys were there. Ask any of the other 20+ NYSpeed members their opinion of how dangerous they were driving. There were plenty of others there who can tell you neither was a ‘big deal.’ No one was ‘hot dogging’ out there. You also have to remember that the glen allows ANYONE on opening day, even people in the worst rusted, un-safe and non-mechanically sound cars, trucks, CONVERSION VANS, etc. to lap the track in the same fashion as we did every spring. The only difference is that they don’t lap the track immediately following open wheel race cars on slicks. And the event definitely is NOT canceled for next year. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/217 "2009-07-10T13:46:02Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > No one was ‘hot dogging’ out there. > [@bing](#): > > frig those laps were awesome… > > the first time the pace car ripped up past the 3 guys in the back and was FREAKING out on me at like 50mph because i was swerving to get some heat into the tires… mind you, i think it was justified because it was still a bit damp out, the tires were slick and i didnt know the track… > > and on the last lap Mike make ALOT of room for Moffit and I to kill off some corners… i got up over 170kph, so about 110mph and got some serious time in… > > they switched things up a bit the second time around to keep us from doing that (they were not happy with me and Mike) but our contact at The Glen really led a hard couple parade laps… i really could not have gone faster than that if the track were clear… the track is a bit much for my S14… I think it’s easy to see how someone would get the wrong impression. I apologize for not being there, I guess that means that I’m not allowed to read posts related to the event or form an opinion based on those posts. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/218 "2009-07-10T15:01:43Z")
lol, you’re allowed to read into whatever you like. Bing was obviously excited when he made his post. It was much less dramatic than that. Rest assured that if anyone was being unsafe they would not have been allowed on track again, and that someone from our group (dmoffitt, silver, Luke or any of the other members who are experienced on this track) would have said something before we went out for another day and 7 more laps. So if you’re concerned about saftey, come out next year and see for yourself :tup: ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/219 "2009-07-10T15:19:13Z")
If I was going to make the ~850 mile drive, I’d at least be going to an actual track day. :lol: ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894/220 "2009-07-10T17:21:24Z")
I was there and he didn’t do anything wrong. end of story. I had a blast and will be returning next year. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-showcases-grand-prix-watkins-glen-july-3rd-to-5th-2009/65894.md?page=12)