# «OFFICIAL» NYSpeed Summer Meet: LETCHWORTH, Sun Sep 16th 2012

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 1, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976 "2012-05-01T13:21:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/61 "2012-05-16T09:03:22Z")

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I was thinking chicane on the track before turn 5 to slow the speed. Entering turn 9 isn’t going to be fast at all since the straight is so short and bumpy.

Yeah the kidney would be a fallback, but if there is a way to make the track a little longer and use the section in front of the stands that would be great.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/62 "2012-05-16T09:32:27Z")

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In for BBQ and probably lapping.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/63 "2012-05-16T09:37:12Z")

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I was thinking brakes would be hottest at Turn 9, the chicane would move the car closer to the permanent wall. A straight lock-up would move the runoff further away from Turn 5 (vs. trying to stay near the infield and take a wide swing at the apex).

There are plenty of options to reduce speed in Turn 4 - 5.

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**Author:** ![Drtye36](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Drtye36](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Drtye36)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/64 "2012-05-16T11:49:59Z")

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In for lapping

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/65 "2012-05-16T12:47:36Z")

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I’d be in for running the course in one of my cars… What about bikes?

Any interest in pitching for for a “track car” that will pass tech for this? Something everyone could drive as long as they sign a waiver. lol

I’d be willing to throw in a couple hundred for something like that.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/66 "2012-05-16T13:31:32Z")

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> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> I was thinking brakes would be hottest at Turn 9, the chicane would move the car closer to the permanent wall. A straight lock-up would move the runoff further away from Turn 5 (vs. trying to stay near the infield and take a wide swing at the apex).
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> There are plenty of options to reduce speed in Turn 4 - 5.

Ah, I see what you’re doing. But I don’t think you’re going to carry much speed around turn 8 and into turn 9, and the distance is so short & the track so rough that I can’t imagine anyone getting up to speed… especially when they’re staring right at a wall. Limiting this to 3 cars would almost certainly avoid contact. Maaayyyeee 4.

Remade things here, kinda the same way. Red are “cones”, Blue are foam walls, Yellow is run-off:

 ![http://www.nyspeed.com/pictures/v2.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/7/374fef36f8df80506a1b293d581c84332ebb555b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/67 "2012-05-16T13:49:22Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Ah, I see what you’re doing. But I don’t think you’re going to carry much speed around turn 8 and into turn 9, and the distance is so short & the track so rough that I can’t imagine anyone getting up to speed… especially when they’re staring right at a wall.

If there is a will there is a way. I can see a stock suspension beater, NFG WOT over bumps.

In either case we can take speed off of the exit of Turn 8, we can make the entrance into Turn 9 slow, or we can leave it as is and take some laps to see how much speed you can get up to.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/68 "2012-05-16T13:51:44Z")

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Mike just reminded me of how bad the track really is in that turn 8-9 area. We’re going to need to walk it again before deciding on a layout.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/69 "2012-05-16T13:53:27Z")

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Keep it oval and nascar it up?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/70 "2012-05-16T13:54:43Z")

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![http://www.yourshitisweak.net/wordsareweak/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Nascar-Boring.gif](http://www.yourshitisweak.net/wordsareweak/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Nascar-Boring.gif)

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/71 "2012-05-16T14:20:55Z")

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Fuck this.  
I’m bringing my stock miata wheels with rock hard 6 year old semi bald all seasons for lapping.

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**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/72 "2012-05-16T15:27:38Z")

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personally i vote for somewhere not a track, i feel like we had plenty of fun in the parks  
i think its silly to try to jam all of these things into one day  
josh I’m still thinking that secret location that we have been talking about for years needs to happen asap!

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/73 "2012-05-16T16:05:57Z")

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The later the better for me, my car may be ready by October at this point. lol

Edit: I did get my flywheel today. Yay!

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/74 "2012-05-16T16:26:56Z")

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^^ Nice. Respond to your PMs BTW 🙂

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**Author:** ![robftw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@robftw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robftw)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/75 "2012-05-16T17:52:54Z")

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Why can’t we use the drag strip? I can pay 5$ on cruise night to do it, why not for the bbq?

The drifting was fun last year, but it was a real let down that we couldn’t use the strip. Everyone here could take advantage of it for grudge racing / general fucking around with SUV’s / powerstrokes. And lapping would be limited to what, 90mph?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/76 "2012-05-16T18:06:10Z")

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> [@robftw](#):
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> Why can’t we use the drag strip? I can pay 5$ on cruise night to do it, why not for the bbq?

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> No chance that we’d rent it for the day. There are already plenty of opportunities to race on the 1/8th mile track throughout the summer that cost less than it would if we rented it.

Economies of scale.

> [@robftw](#):
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> … And lapping would be limited to what, 90mph?

The drag strip is actually a significant part of the oval as well. Lapping speed isn’t limited.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/77 "2012-05-16T18:19:26Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> No chance that we’d rent it for the day. There are already plenty of opportunities to race on the 1/8th mile track throughout the summer that cost less than it would if we rented it.

These guys are killing themselves then, IMO with the reduced traffic now from the new S&R cruise nights this place is just going to finally close down.

Also lapping that track is a dangerous idea, all it takes is one dumbass / bad brake line to smash up 3-4 other peoples cars.

Drag racing=safer

edit: how much do they want for a daily rental of the track anyways?

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/78 "2012-05-16T18:27:12Z")

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> [@robftw](#):
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> Also lapping that track is a dangerous idea, all it takes is one dumbass / bad brake line to smash up 3-4 other peoples cars.

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> … limiting the number of cars on track to 3 or 4 max.

We’re not going to human-centipede the cars out there, lol.

I love how each event becomes an assessment of risk 🙂

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/79 "2012-05-16T18:29:36Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> We’re not going to human-centipede the cars out there, lol.
> 
> I love how each event becomes an assessment of risk 🙂

If we cared about risk, we wouldn’t be jumping drift cars on bicycles now would we 😉

i think track lapping is fun and all… but its just an oval

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-summer-meet-letchworth-sun-sep-16th-2012/222976/80 "2012-05-16T18:31:39Z")

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> [@robftw](#):
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> edit: how much do they want for a daily rental of the track anyways?

> $200/hour. Six hour minimum and  
> up to 10 cars. Each additional car $60.  
> (All rentals are for daytime only)

[http://www.dunntireracewaypark.com/track-rental/](http://www.dunntireracewaypark.com/track-rental/)

> [@robftw](#):
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> … but its just an oval

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> ![http://www.nyspeed.com/pictures/v2.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/7/374fef36f8df80506a1b293d581c84332ebb555b.jpeg)

… Are you even reading this thread? lol

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