# «OFFICIAL» Pole Position Buffalo (Galleria Mall)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 9, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876 "2013-04-09T12:34:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/121 "2013-11-22T04:57:39Z")

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> [@02NismoSpecV](#):
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> wonder if they will do the enduro races with teams like AJ’s used to do? 3-4 guys for 2 hours of driving. that was a good time. a straight 45 min run solo would be badass though. im in for that!

We used to have a good time at Aj’s. Want to see if Andy will want to go? Just like old times, ha.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/122 "2013-11-22T05:24:51Z")

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> [@02NismoSpecV](#):
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> wonder if they will do the enduro races with teams like AJ’s used to do? 3-4 guys for 2 hours of driving. that was a good time. a straight 45 min run solo would be badass though. im in for that!

If you guys want some good karting come to WV and race at Summit Point lol…We did a 12 Hr enduro on their karting track.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/123 "2013-11-22T06:16:20Z")

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They are still not 100% sure on how the league sessions will work. Or really pricing, but this is what he had said the other day: (waiting on an email back from them now so we can get the ball rolling)

League: 250$ per person  
4-6 weeks (up in the air now I guess, obv Id hope for 6)

3 Races per week meet. 8-10 people per group  
1 Practice  
1 Qualifier  
1 45 Min POSITION based race. Time is nice but you will need to pass. This is the reason for trying to get them to take out the chicane to open that up for more passing opportunities.

They also do a team based 90 min endurance race but probably not initially. As soon as I get more information ill put it up.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/124 "2013-11-22T07:01:02Z")

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How will the nights be established? I’m not available M-W evenings.

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**Author:** ![MR.TWOSINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr.twosinister/32/6198_2.png) [@MR.TWOSINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MR.TWOSINISTER)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/125 "2013-11-22T07:05:49Z")

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I used to do leagues at AJ’s. Our setup there was a short 3 lap qualifier the first week that separated the group into two. We then drew straws for kart selection. After that we would do our race. Initially it was a 40 lap race, but we decided to break it up into two 20 lappers, and invert the field, AND allowed the last place finisher to pick a kart first, second to last second etc. It worked out to be a lot more fair, and the championship often came down to 3 points or less on the last week.

At AJ’s we found that by lap 20 the field was pretty spread out, and that the race was decided by then anyway. Plus you were never stuck with a shitty kart for the whole day.

I don’t know if they will run a separate league for NYSPEED from the normal league, if they dont, I assure you that the group of guys I used to run with will be more than skilled enough to keep it fun. Their names on the sheet include, racerx, JAZZYTIME, CLUTCH (me), Potters, JCHip, and some that will make the list soon, Falcon, Zoomer… Expect to see all of these names in the 23-24.2 range within a couple weeks. It is a lot of fun running with a very fast group, you can actually see the lap times getting quicker and quicker as they feed of each other.

Kruetter52 is Scott Kruetter. He a the manager at P2R now. If I remember correctly, he used to co-own Fast Freddies with his father. He is also very likely the person you were talking to about a league the other day.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/126 "2013-11-22T07:06:30Z")

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I would be in for the league for sure. We should get a list going of who wanted to do it so we know how many to expect. League max is 10 right?

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/127 "2013-11-22T07:13:22Z")

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> [@MR.TWOSINISTER](#):
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> I used to do leagues at AJ’s. Our setup there was a short 3 lap qualifier the first week that separated the group into two. We then drew straws for kart selection. After that we would do our race. Initially it was a 40 lap race, but we decided to break it up into two 20 lappers, and invert the field, AND allowed the last place finisher to pick a kart first, second to last second etc. It worked out to be a lot more fair, and the championship often came down to 3 points or less on the last week.
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> At AJ’s we found that by lap 20 the field was pretty spread out, and that the race was decided by then anyway. Plus you were never stuck with a shitty kart for the whole day.
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> I don’t know if they will run a separate league for NYSPEED from the normal league, if they dont, I assure you that the group of guys I used to run with will be more than skilled enough to keep it fun. Their names on the sheet include, racerx, JAZZYTIME, CLUTCH (me), Potters, JCHip, and some that will make the list soon, Falcon, Zoomer… Expect to see all of these names in the 23-24.2 range within a couple weeks. It is a lot of fun running with a very fast group, you can actually see the lap times getting quicker and quicker as they feed of each other.
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> Kruetter52 is Scott Kruetter. He a the manager at P2R now. If I remember correctly, he used to co-own Fast Freddies with his father. He is also very likely the person you were talking to about a league the other day.

Are you a volunteer Firefighter?

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/128 "2013-11-22T07:15:43Z")

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I’d be in for a summer/fall league. Too many other winter hobbies to cram in that much carting.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/129 "2013-11-22T08:23:16Z")

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In.

Jazzy time and clutch were racing wed night when we were there.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/130 "2013-11-22T08:28:38Z")

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> [@MR.TWOSINISTER](#):
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> snip

I remember doing that at AJ’s as well, with the split and switching carts. I do not think that is necessary here, but if anyone else thinks it is let me know and I’ll see what we can get going. The final race is based on finishing position, not time, and the carts are all extremely equal. Ive gone a few times, and while yes each cart may have a small flaw, its very small that makes them very competitive (flaw is in the braking, not the power levels either so then it goes down to learning the car your in. So maybe we could either make sure we stick to one car, or we switch up the car each race). They also apparently go through a full ‘inspection’ and rebuild every 10 days to keep them that close.

We are trying to get them to run an NYspeed only league. They seemed kind of impressed with our last race we did so I believe its completely possible. I’m emailing Tom S right now, I have no idea where he ranks in comparison to Scott but when I was there on Saturday he was the one I was passed to for all of this information + other.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/131 "2013-11-22T08:41:28Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> Are you a volunteer Firefighter?

.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/132 "2013-11-22T10:19:19Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> Are you a volunteer Firefighter?

No.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/133 "2013-11-22T10:31:37Z")

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> [@MR.TWOSINISTER](#):
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> No.

Do you own an MR2?

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/134 "2013-11-22T10:38:06Z")

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Apparently yukoncorn has been here

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/135 "2013-11-22T10:39:15Z")

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has anybody who’s raced at the syracuse location also driven the buffalo one and want to give us a comparison?

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/136 "2013-11-22T11:07:15Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> Do you own an MR2?

Id hope you would be able to tell. Its on my profile

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**Author:** ![yukoncorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6bbea6/32.png) [@yukoncorn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yukoncorn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/137 "2013-11-22T11:24:11Z")

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https://player.vimeo.com/video/80084916?app_id=122963

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/138 "2013-11-22T11:52:50Z")

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i cant watch vimeo videos anymore… not sure why, same with Vine.

also, RE: Nyspeed league… i cant make it out there that often… once a week at most.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/139 "2013-11-22T11:53:38Z")

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> [@MR.TWOSINISTER](#):
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> Id hope you would be able to tell. Its on my profile

Ah sorry didn’t look! Makes total sense now.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-pole-position-buffalo-galleria-mall/229876/140 "2013-11-22T12:02:21Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> i cant watch vimeo videos anymore… not sure why, same with Vine.
> 
> also, RE: Nyspeed league… i cant make it out there that often… once a week at most.

Do you use Chrome? If so it’s probably your audio driver:

[http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/80semoO7HIM](http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/80semoO7HIM)

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