# Official Shift Truck Thread; Woodchuck big bodiez ITT **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [November 27, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527 "2011-11-27T15:37:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/41 "2011-11-30T05:45:11Z")
Pretty sure The Wizard got 13/14mpg towing this pile of shit to the cespool of the US. ![http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/1flossedm3/DSC_2178.jpg](http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/1flossedm3/DSC_2178.jpg) Miss my Tundy ![http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/1flossedm3/Tundra/DSC_5826.jpg](http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/1flossedm3/Tundra/DSC_5826.jpg) I will own another 96-03 Tacoma at some point though. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/42 "2011-11-30T05:48:15Z")
Well no shit dude. :lol I’m sure the dually kills your mileage. I didn’t realize your truck was a dually. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/43 "2011-11-30T05:48:42Z")
salty soups ITT ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/44 "2011-11-30T05:54:19Z")
> [@WNY SCCA 2008 Autox Season and \*\*\*NOVICE SCHOOL\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-2008-autox-season-and-novice-school/44550/87): > > Pretty sure The Wizard got 13/14mpg towing this pile of shit to the cespool of the US. > > ![http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/1flossedm3/DSC_2178.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/6/96204aecf5f4925e072224a20fa6295b0e72d132.jpeg) 13.8 exactly. :thumb :thumb :thumb P.S. - I interrupt this diesel thread for a courtesy reminder to all of you who may not have had the pleasure of traveling there: FUCK NEW JERSEY. ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/45 "2011-11-30T05:59:47Z")
Be helpfull if we took the better exit. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/46 "2011-11-30T06:03:27Z")
I’m standing behind my initial statement. ---
**Author:** ![RTrac1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rtrac1/32/6312_2.png) [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/47 "2011-11-30T06:11:21Z")
1st year of ownership ![http://www.leded.com/Takeover07/images/NTC_Takeover2007_056.jpg](http://www.leded.com/Takeover07/images/NTC_Takeover2007_056.jpg) put it back to stock for tow duty a couple years later: ![http://www.leded.com/RokPark_July09/RP_July09_01.jpg](http://www.leded.com/RokPark_July09/RP_July09_01.jpg) truck buddiez :hug ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/48 "2011-11-30T12:56:40Z")
FUCK NEW JERSEY. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/49 "2011-11-30T14:19:16Z")
> [@risk + simcity with a pinch of civilization for good measure](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/risk-simcity-with-a-pinch-of-civilization-for-good-measure/46848/150): > > Plug your ears you’re not going to want to hear this. > > Diesel 1 ton or 3/4 ton trucks or bust. Why? Lets have a looksee: > > 1. I get the same or better fuel mileage as a 1/2ton soccer mom jumpoff > > 2. Stick 10k behind your truck and let me know what the mileage is then: Cause I’m getting 14 AVG Loaded. (if that pile of shit can even tow 10k) > > 3. I drive my truck every day and parallel park it everyday in downtown albany, so don’t tell me it’s not practical. > > 4. You’re not happy with the performance of your glorified Mazda B2000, so you put headers, exhaust, intake, cam, heads all your LS motor bullshit. I turn the knob on my dashboard one click and go by you. What’s your mileage at now? Mines the same as it was before. > > 5. Lets not even bring up GVWR, I can put in my bed what you can GVWR. > > 6. But your oil changes cost more :‘(:’(:‘(:’( Ok, you got me there. So every 5k I spend $100 on an oil change. I’m stilling winning, fuck you. > > Diesel \> gas any god damn way you cut it. I don’t care if you don’t agree. ignorance = bliss. Enjoy. > > /thread. My truck will tow anything that I’ll ever need to tow, gets good fuel mileage for what it is, and is light years ahead of your truck in interior quality and ride comfort. Non arguable points. Sorry my post pissed you off, I was not implying that you were one of the 99 percent, in fact I would of put you in the one percent. ---
**Author:** ![Phate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Phate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phate)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/50 "2011-11-30T15:12:40Z")
so… 1/2 ton diesel? I know they aren’t really sold in the US, but it seems pretty ideal. All the benefits of a comfy half ton, and most of the benefits of a diesel 3/4 ton for normal people who don’t need to tow 20,000lbs? 1/2 ton diesel pickups. The truck of the 99%. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/51 "2011-11-30T15:39:45Z")
I rarely tow anything with my 1/2 ton, but if I did any kind of serious towing over a long distance, definitely I would have a diesel. ---
**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/52 "2011-11-30T15:46:19Z")
> [@risk + simcity with a pinch of civilization for good measure](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/risk-simcity-with-a-pinch-of-civilization-for-good-measure/46848/150): > > Plug your ears you’re not going to want to hear this. > > Diesel 1 ton or 3/4 ton trucks or bust. Why? Lets have a looksee: > > 1. I get the same or better fuel mileage as a 1/2ton soccer mom jumpoff > > 2. Stick 10k behind your truck and let me know what the mileage is then: Cause I’m getting 14 AVG Loaded. (if that pile of shit can even tow 10k) > > 3. I drive my truck every day and parallel park it everyday in downtown albany, so don’t tell me it’s not practical. > > 4. You’re not happy with the performance of your glorified Mazda B2000, so you put headers, exhaust, intake, cam, heads all your LS motor bullshit. I turn the knob on my dashboard one click and go by you. What’s your mileage at now? Mines the same as it was before. > > 5. Lets not even bring up GVWR, I can put in my bed what you can GVWR. > > 6. But your oil changes cost more :‘(:’(:‘(:’( Ok, you got me there. So every 5k I spend $100 on an oil change. I’m stilling winning, fuck you. > > Diesel \> gas any god damn way you cut it. I don’t care if you don’t agree. ignorance = bliss. Enjoy. > > /thread. :number1 ---
**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/53 "2011-11-30T15:56:54Z")
> [@risk + simcity with a pinch of civilization for good measure](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/risk-simcity-with-a-pinch-of-civilization-for-good-measure/46848/150): > > Plug your ears you’re not going to want to hear this. > > Diesel 1 ton or 3/4 ton trucks or bust. Why? Lets have a looksee: > > 1. I get the same or better fuel mileage as a 1/2ton soccer mom jumpoff > > 2. Stick 10k behind your truck and let me know what the mileage is then: Cause I’m getting 14 AVG Loaded. (if that pile of shit can even tow 10k) > > 3. I drive my truck every day and parallel park it everyday in downtown albany, so don’t tell me it’s not practical. > > 4. You’re not happy with the performance of your glorified Mazda B2000, so you put headers, exhaust, intake, cam, heads all your LS motor bullshit. I turn the knob on my dashboard one click and go by you. What’s your mileage at now? Mines the same as it was before. > > 5. Lets not even bring up GVWR, I can put in my bed what you can GVWR. > > 6. But your oil changes cost more :‘(:’(:‘(:’( Ok, you got me there. So every 5k I spend $100 on an oil change. I’m stilling winning, fuck you. > > Diesel \> gas any god damn way you cut it. I don’t care if you don’t agree. ignorance = bliss. Enjoy. > > /thread. +1. My truck has every option avalible and is a 3500 HD crew cab. I also have a trailer on my truck almost every time I drive it. Many on here know that for a fact. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/54 "2011-11-30T15:59:44Z")
[quote=“TurboTravis,post:142,topic:46848"”] 99 percent of people with a 3/4 ton truck could do EVERYTHING that they do with that truck totally fine with a 1/2 ton, and have a nicer optioned truck that gets better MPG in the process. Then there is the bros that buy diesels just to say they have diesels..same boat. 99 percent of them could get away totally fine with a gas truck, spend less money, and not have to listen to the stupid sounds they make in the process. [/quote] It all depends on what your intended use for the truck is if you want to put a plow on it then 3/4 or bigger or your stupid. Also if you plan on lifting it or turning it up your money well ahead with a diesel. I’ll take you for a ride some time in the dirtymax with the programmer turned up, might change you mind a little. ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/55 "2011-11-30T16:00:34Z")
parallel parking it must be a massive pain in the dick. ---
**Author:** ![silveradoman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silveradoman/32/6487_2.png) [@silveradoman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silveradoman)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/56 "2011-11-30T16:06:36Z")
> [@risk + simcity with a pinch of civilization for good measure](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/risk-simcity-with-a-pinch-of-civilization-for-good-measure/46848/202): > > It all depends on what your intended use for the truck is if you want to put a plow on it then 3/4 or bigger or your stupid. Also if you plan on lifting it or turning it up your money well ahead with a diesel. I’ll take you for a ride some time in the dirtymax with the programmer turned up, might change you mind a little. when i read his (turbotrav) post, i thaught of all the suny cobleskill kids with diesels for commuting to and from school…seriously if anyone ever goes to coby, you wont make it from one end of town to the other end without seeing one. and i know alot of people to dd their diesel and dont own anything bigger than a 2-place snowmobile trailer. why??? b/c they dont care and its all about the “status”. i think thats the type of people he was refering to by his post ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/57 "2011-11-30T16:34:10Z")
> [@risk + simcity with a pinch of civilization for good measure](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/risk-simcity-with-a-pinch-of-civilization-for-good-measure/46848/204): > > when i read his (turbotrav) post, i thaught of all the suny cobleskill kids with diesels for commuting to and from school…seriously if anyone ever goes to coby, you wont make it from one end of town to the other end without seeing one. and i know alot of people to dd their diesel and dont own anything bigger than a 2-place snowmobile trailer. why??? b/c they dont care and its all about the “status”. i think thats the type of people he was refering to by his post It comes down to thats what they want and thats how they spend their money to enjoy the automotive hobby. IE you have a fast sled and Trav has a fast EVO. Both are far less practical then a diesel pickup for your DD to get groceries, but thats what you guys are into. It just comes down to consumer preference. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/58 "2011-11-30T16:40:02Z")
Sensible talk. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/59 "2011-11-30T16:41:26Z")
Damn… i really want a diesel truck even more. ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527/60 "2011-11-30T16:52:41Z")
I have 2 diesels, ones a 5/4 ton…now do i need a 5/4 ton? absolutely. The abuse i put the truck through anything smaller wouldve been broken the first time i drove it. Mileage? probably around 12. The other truck is a 3/4 ton. Do i need this? yes, i live on a farm and put it to use as well as commute around with it, also bought to tow a trailer with. Mileage? i can get 22+ if i keep my foot out of it. Diesel everything FTW [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shift-truck-thread-woodchuck-big-bodiez-itt/261527.md?page=4)