# Offsets

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [December 8, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698 "2007-12-08T15:12:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Slide\_Junkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@Slide\_Junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slide_Junkie)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/1 "2007-12-08T15:12:34Z")

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Pretty simple Q… Looking for a simple answer

Looking to get a new set of rims…

8.5 F 9.5 R widths

what should I be looking at for offsets to get a flush fit respectively for F and R?

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**Author:** ![robbbby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@robbbby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robbbby)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/2 "2007-12-09T15:43:38Z")

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Might help if you specify if it’s a s13 or s14.

If it’s a s13 I doubt you will get a 9.5" rear wheel flush without pulling or using over fenders.

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**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/3 "2007-12-09T15:48:58Z")

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Depends how flush you want it? I’d say +15 front +20 rear?

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**Author:** ![Slide\_Junkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@Slide\_Junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slide_Junkie)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/4 "2007-12-10T11:38:30Z")

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Its for an s13 hatch… I justwant to get a rough idea… Doesnt have to be super flush because I tuck rim ( 18s ) Yes I will be running over fenders but as a base Id like to know wut would be good b4 overfenders in therory without taking into account coil clearance etc… so I can build apon that say with a 30mm overfender just - that much offset ie 9.5 rim looks good on s13 with a -30 offset say so with 30mm overfeders 0 offset would look good…

Reason Im being this way is because 2 yrs ago when I knew nothing about offset and such with my 240 I just baught I got rims that were 7" wide with a +40mm offset… can you say sunken!!! lol

Anyone running a 9.5 rear ?? wut offset are they and how do you like how they sit

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**Author:** ![Lith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@Lith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lith)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/5 "2007-12-10T11:42:28Z")

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to be honest, you need to know what kinda of negative camber you’ll have in the front and in the back…  
I have -1 degree in the back and my 9" wide +30 wheels are perfectly flush on my S14. However, if i Had -2 or -3 degrees of camber in the rear (like most 240’s which are lowered by about 1.5-2") then the +30 offset would be terrible and the wheels would have been sunken in. I would need something like +15 to +20 offset on a 9" wide wheel to make it nice and flush in that case.  
Same applies for the fronts.

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**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/6 "2007-12-10T11:53:08Z")

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> [@Slide\_Junkie"](#):
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> Its for an s13 hatch… I justwant to get a rough idea… Doesnt have to be super flush because I tuck rim ( 18s ) Yes I will be running over fenders but as a base Id like to know wut would be good b4 overfenders in therory without taking into account coil clearance etc… so I can build apon that say with a 30mm overfender just - that much offset ie 9.5 rim looks good on s13 with a -30 offset say so with 30mm overfeders 0 offset would look good…
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> Reason Im being this way is because 2 yrs ago when I knew nothing about offset and such with my 240 I just baught I got rims that were 7" wide with a -40mm offset… can you say sunken!!! lol
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> Anyone running a 9.5 rear ?? wut offset are they and how do you like how they sit

Seems you still know nothing about offset sicne your getting your + and - mixed up.

By the way, you don’t need over fenders for the rim width you want, get 17x9.5 in front and 18x10.5 in back minimum if you want overfenders.

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**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/7 "2007-12-10T17:39:51Z")

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> [@Freakin' funny ass joke.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/freakin-funny-ass-joke/15181/12):
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> to be honest, you need to know what kinda of negative camber you’ll have in the front and in the back…  
> I have -1 degree in the back and my 9" wide +30 wheels are perfectly flush on my S14. However, if i Had -2 or -3 degrees of camber in the rear (like most 240’s which are lowered by about 1.5-2") then the +30 offset would be terrible and the wheels would have been sunken in. I would need something like +15 to +20 offset on a 9" wide wheel to make it nice and flush in that case.  
> Same applies for the fronts.

Tire size also has a lot to do with how flush they look. As does opinion of what is “flush”

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**Author:** ![Slide\_Junkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@Slide\_Junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slide_Junkie)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/8 "2007-12-12T14:54:03Z")

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There U happy… I fixed it simple - + key mix up… logik23  
Funny how some people like to point out a simple mistake where as others see it as it is… that I meant +40

Thanx lith… U gave me the answer I was looking for… I agree with applesauce, it does depend on tire size and wut u see as flush… For me flush will be top of rim in line with body if not 5mm in since I plan to tuck rim in the rear ( yes I realize Ill scrape everything… I dont really care… Its a weekend car )

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/9 "2007-12-12T17:37:56Z")

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for comparison i had the same width wheels and I had +38 rear and +22 front

the rears needed to be rolled in order to clear 255 tires which were a bit stretched on that size of a wheel and i had no adjustable control arms at the time and car was fairly low so there was 2.8 deg neg. camber. i would have preferred about +30 in the rear.

whoever said +20 in the rear is crazy, you’ll need either disgusting negative camber or pulled fenders (or aftermarket fenders) to clear that.

front at +22 on an 8.5 fit pretty nicely, i had a 235 tire on and had some minor rubbing issues… tire got chewed pretty badly after a few months.

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**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/10 "2007-12-12T17:46:20Z")

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in the summer i ran 17x9 +4 in the rear on stock body of an s14

rolled fender with a bat

all depends on tire setup and camber

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**Author:** ![s13Junkyard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13junkyard/32/5502_2.png) [@s13Junkyard](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s13Junkyard)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/11 "2007-12-12T18:45:47Z")

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this summer i ran

17 x 9 + 20 all around on a s13 with rolled fenders tucking rear tires

215/40/17 front, 225/45/17 rear

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**Author:** ![Slide\_Junkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@Slide\_Junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slide_Junkie)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/12 "2007-12-12T20:16:23Z")

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Thanx Guys… Again a simple ans. was all I wanted which I got… F-ing mint … Now to order rims… yay

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**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/13 "2007-12-13T12:58:25Z")

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> [@Jammin1911"](#):
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> whoever said +20 in the rear is crazy, you’ll need either disgusting negative camber or pulled fenders (or aftermarket fenders) to clear that.

I have 16x9 +13 with a 225 and 3 degress of camber and I needed just a slight bat roll. Later I;m ganna put a 245 on there and put 2 degress of camber and i’ll still be able to get away with a roll.

By the way, sorry, I didn’t wanna sound like such a dick before, came out wrong. (about the +40 thing)

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**Author:** ![Slide\_Junkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@Slide\_Junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slide_Junkie)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/offsets/111698/14 "2007-12-13T13:30:50Z")

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Its coo fella… I really just dont want another nice set of rims that look like shit because of the offsets…

Cheers fellas
