# Oh no, no need for congressional oversight

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [May 17, 2006, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165 "2006-05-17T12:39:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/1 "2006-05-17T12:39:05Z")

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New Presidential Memorandum Permits Intelligence Director To Authorize Telcos To Lie Without Violating Securities Law

Ordinarily, a company that conceals their transactions and activities from the public would violate securities law. But an presidential memorandum signed by the President on May 5 allows the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, to authorize a company to conceal activities related to national security. (See 15 U.S.C. 78m(b)(3)(A))

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### Author: ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/2 "2006-05-17T12:59:27Z")

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w.

t.

f.

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### Author: ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/3 "2006-05-17T13:00:40Z")

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Gotta love this administration. Your rights sucked right out from under you…

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/4 "2006-05-17T13:02:03Z")

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all i care about is my right to give nipple twisters to anyone reinstated.

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### Author: ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/5 "2006-05-17T13:03:28Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> all i care about is my right to give nipple twisters to anyone reinstated.

reinstated?

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### Author: ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/6 "2006-05-17T16:19:40Z")

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🎻

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### Author: ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/7 "2006-05-17T16:37:01Z")

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> [@JEG](#):
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are you serious?

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### Author: ![kingsario](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kingsario/32/7572_2.png) [@kingsario](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kingsario)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/8 "2006-05-17T16:38:48Z")

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f the goverment, I’m not paying taxes lol

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### Author: ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/9 "2006-05-17T16:42:36Z")

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> [@evolve](#):
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> are you serious?

Of course he’s serious. George Bush could rape his girlfriend and he’d still blame the “Dems” for it.

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/10 "2006-05-17T16:47:58Z")

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Wow, even I think this is messed up.

But, it came from Joe, so I’m not taking it too seriously until I see the story in it’s full context.

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### Author: ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/11 "2006-05-17T16:53:50Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Wow, even I think this is messed up.
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> But, it came from Joe, so I’m not taking it too seriously until I see the story in it’s full context.

I saw it posted elsewhere, I’ll post a link when I see one

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### Author: ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/12 "2006-05-17T17:25:24Z")

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:tdown:

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### Author: ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/13 "2006-05-17T18:26:23Z")

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> [@JEG](#):
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you really don’t think do you?

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/14 "2006-05-17T18:34:22Z")

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Well, you can read the whole thing here:

[http://www.washingtonwatchdog.org/documents/usc/ttl15/ch2B/sec78m.html](http://www.washingtonwatchdog.org/documents/usc/ttl15/ch2B/sec78m.html)

But I’ve been writing code for 8 hours at my regular job, plus 3 hours tonight doing my consulting gig, so there is no way I’m shifting my brain into lawyer mode to decipher that.

EDIT:  
Joe, you may want to check your source. Note the date at the top of that link…  
**_U.S. Code as of: 01/26/1998_**  
  
Looks like this might be the work of your hero Clinton.

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### Author: ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/15 "2006-05-17T19:02:53Z")

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(3)(A) With respect to matters concerning the national security  
of the United States, no duty or liability under paragraph (2) of  
this subsection shall be imposed upon any person acting in  
cooperation with the head of any Federal department or agency  
responsible for such matters if such act in cooperation with such  
head of a department or agency was done upon the specific, written  
directive of the head of such department or agency pursuant to  
Presidential authority to issue such directives. **Each directive  
issued under this paragraph shall set forth the specific facts and  
circumstances with respect to which the provisions of this  
paragraph are to be invoked. **** _Each such directive shall, unless  
renewed in writing, expire one year after the date of issuance._**

Come on now, try harder…Oh and Jay, Sub. b(3)(a) seems circa 77…(although I could be mis-reading the amendment notes) But that certainly wasn’t drafted in 98 😉

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### Author: ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/16 "2006-05-17T19:07:42Z")

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> [@JEG](#):
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do me a favor. go outside and fucking end yourself.

you honestly dont think at all do you. you are a fuckign moron. open a fucking book sometime.

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### Author: ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/17 "2006-05-17T19:09:51Z")

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🎻

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/18 "2006-05-17T19:10:50Z")

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So he renewed something that has been on the books since 77? OMG, impeach the motherfucker right now.

Better yet, call in Jack Bauer and just have him shot.

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/19 "2006-05-17T19:13:02Z")

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> [@94wvwglxvr6](#):
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> do me a favor. go outside and fucking end yourself.
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> you honestly dont think at all do you. you are a fuckign moron. open a fucking book sometime.

Actually, it sounds like you’re just as ignorant for blindly believing something without researching it first, just because it fit your point of view. So do us all a favor, go end Jeg, then end yourself. Minus two morons, a +1 for the planet.

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### Author: ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-no-no-need-for-congressional-oversight/12165/20 "2006-05-17T19:13:24Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> So he renewed something that has been on the books since 77? OMG, impeach the motherfucker right now.
> 
> Better yet, call in Jack Bauer and just have him shot.

He didn’t renew anything, he gave cover to the companies by using a provision…which would be fine, if we had congressional oversight monitoring the program…But since the NSA denys the justice department security clearence they can’t be investigated. This memo, now shields any information comming out as a result of civil litigation brought against the phone companies.

I take back saying he didn’t renew anything, he may have been drafting these memos for the last 3 years this program has been going on

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